Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #84 on: July 19, 2022, 03:53:44 PM »
It is so obvious that Lovelady is part of the conspiracy.  Lovelady is so very well coached to identify Vickie Adams. What an unbelievable conspiracy was taking place. Fortunately for America we have someone to ferret the conspirators out. Thank you for all you do. If you find any more documents like the Top Secret Adam's WC fake testimony, please post it.

Mr. Ball. Who did you see in the first floor?
Mr. Lovelady. I saw a girl but I wouldn't swear to it it's Vickie.
Mr. Ball. Who is Vickie?
Mr. Lovelady. The girl that works for Scott, Foresman.
Mr. Ball. What is her full name?
Mr. Lovelady. I wouldn't know.
Mr. Ball. Vickie Adams?
Mr. Lovelady. I believe so.
Mr. Ball. Would you say it was Vickie you saw?
Mr. Lovelady. I couldn't swear.
Mr. Ball. Where was the girl?
Mr. Lovelady. I don't remember what place she was but I remember seeing a girl as she was talking to Bill or saw Bill or something, then I went over and asked one of the guys what time it was and to see if we should continue working or what.

Thank you for reminding us that neither Mr Lovelady nor Mr Shelley were willing to swear to seeing Ms Adams or Ms Styles on the first floor!  Thumb1:

Ms Styles has repeatedly backed up Ms Adams on this issue: no Shelley/Lovelady

So literally all you have by way of evidence for your allegation that Ms Adams was a shameless liar is this:



Good luck!  Thumb1:
« Last Edit: July 19, 2022, 07:11:41 PM by Alan Ford »

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #85 on: July 19, 2022, 03:55:36 PM »
Why did Lovelady say “I wouldn’t swear to it it’s Vickie” when Ball didn’t ask him anything about Vickie?

Prior coaching off the record?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #86 on: July 19, 2022, 03:58:18 PM »
Lovelady's admission that he didn't re-enter the TSBD building for 20-25 minutes after the assassination ends this debate.

Indeed so! The question then becomes:

If Mr Lovelady didn't in fact re-enter the building by the west door with Mr Shelley a few minutes after the shooting, why in the heck are he and Mr Shelley pretending he did?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #87 on: July 19, 2022, 04:01:01 PM »
Why did Lovelady say “I wouldn’t swear to it it’s Vickie” when Ball didn’t ask him anything about Vickie?

Prior coaching off the record?

Yep! And look at how Mr Ball plays dumb:

Mr. Ball. Who did you see in the first floor?
Mr. Lovelady. I saw a girl but I wouldn't swear to it it's Vickie.
Mr. Ball. Who is Vickie?
Mr. Lovelady. The girl that works for Scott, Foresman.
Mr. Ball. What is her full name?
Mr. Lovelady. I wouldn't know.
Mr. Ball. Vickie Adams?
Mr. Lovelady. I believe so.


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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #88 on: July 19, 2022, 11:49:50 PM »
What a charade.

Offline Jim Hawthorn

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #89 on: July 20, 2022, 12:10:31 AM »
Thank you, Mr Hawthorn!  Thumb1:

The answer to your question is pretty simple: Mr Oswald was NOT being set up in advance as the actual sixth-floor shooter, still less as a Lone Nut assassin. That ludicrous narrative only got created after the event (for political reasons) by the 'investigating' authorities

Then how to explain the non-fired Mauser found on the 6th floor of the TSBD? The conspirators thought they could tie that to their random patsy?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #90 on: July 20, 2022, 12:54:54 AM »
Then how to explain the non-fired Mauser found on the 6th floor of the TSBD? The conspirators thought they could tie that to their random patsy?

Those behind the assassination may not have had any designated gunman-patsy