Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?

[Walt Cakebread]

It would have taken several minutes to place the rifle in position and then cover it with paper and boxes of books.

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Absolute nonsense. You make it sound like he was constructing the Pyramids.

One of the cops that was there ( I don't recall who) said that it was obvious that the rifle had been carefully hidden. And this was long before anybody knew about the 2nd floor lunchroom encounter.    Whoever observed  that the rifle had NOT been hastily cast aside was with the original group of cops who saw the rifle before any boxes were moved or the rifle touched.

Icould make a WAG and say that it was Seymour Weitzman who observed that the rifle was not hastily cast aside., but that's simply a guess..... I hope I can find the officer's declaration......


Hoorah....I've found it.....Tom Alyea observed that the hhiding place for the rifle was constructed BEFORE the shooting.

Q - Did Oswald get enough time to hide his weapon so perfectly, if we considered that he was interviewed by Baker and Truly less than 1 minute after the last shot. According to you and with your perfect knowledge of the building, was that possible?

Did Oswald get enough time to hide his weapon so perfectly,

 


The rifle was "perfectly hidden"....  Do the official DPD insitu photos show a "perfectly hidden" rifle ??

 


 According to you and with your perfect knowledge of the building, was that possible?

Yes, Oswald had time to hide his rifle. The location was in front of the stairway that Oswald took to leave the floor. It was obviously pre constructed so he could slip the rifle under the overhanging boxes as he entered the down stairway, only about five feet away. It would have not taken him over two seconds. No boxes had to be moved. The rifle did not touch any of the three overhanging boxes, and there were no boxes touching the rifle. When Lt. Day retrieved it, he pulled it effortlessly from under the overhanging boxes. This was the first time any of us saw the scope, bolt and trigger housing.

It was obviously pre constructed

Alyea recognized that the site had to have been constructed BEFORE the shooting.....

Question for Tom Alyea.....

Q - Did Oswald get enough time to hide his weapon so perfectly, if we considered that he was interviewed by Baker and Truly less than 1 minute after the last shot. According to you and with your perfect knowledge of the building, was that possible?

Did Oswald get enough time to hide his weapon so perfectly,

Tom Alyea answered:....

  Yes, Oswald had time to hide his rifle. The location was in front of the stairway that Oswald took to leave the floor. It was obviously pre constructed so he could slip the rifle under the overhanging boxes as he entered the down stairway, only about five feet away. It would have not taken him over two seconds. No boxes had to be moved. The rifle did not touch any of the three overhanging boxes, and there were no boxes touching the rifle. When Lt. Day retrieved it, he pulled it effortlessly from under the overhanging boxes. This was the first time any of us saw the scope, bolt and trigger housing.

It was obviously pre constructed

Tom Alyea overlooked a few important aspects.....

"It was obviously pre constructed so he could slip the rifle under the overhanging boxes"

But Tom that rifle weighed 9 pounds and it had a scope and a floppy sling  protruding off the left side of the rifle... it wasn't a light, and  easy to handle piece of 1X 4 lumber.  The skinny Lee Oswald would have to have been plastic man, have been able to streeeeech out  and place that 9 pound rifle ON THE FLOOR beneath the pallet of books.   But at least you're right on one important point Mr Alyea....  The hiding place was in fact constructed BEFORE the shooting.

Oh BTW Tom.....Can you explain the boxes that formed the "roof" over the "cavern". You may recall that Mr Boone said that he moved a couple of boxes that formed the roof above the rifle. And he then shined his flashlight down into the dark cavern and he spotted a small portion of the butt of the rifle that was laying on the floor beneath the pallet.  How did those boxes get  placed there as the roof for the hiding place???

The rifle did not touch any of the three overhanging boxes, and there were no boxes touching the rifle.
 

[Jerry Freeman]

DAVID VON PEIN SAID....
 

You make it sound like he was constructing the Pyramids.

                                                     

[Jerry Freeman]

It's circular reasoning at its finest, when you start out with the improbable assertion that Oswald must be innocent and all the officials lied then you are left with cherry picking minor contradictions and making illogical connections with these slim pickings but of course Walt's fabrications are legendary and he goes the extra mile and at least attempts to create a narrative but as can be seen any alternative to the official version is ridiculous.

...any alternative to the official version was ridiculous unacceptable.
 There-- fixed it No charge.

[Bill Brown]

B) Whaley said that his passenger was wearing a BLUE JACKET and BLUE trousers.  ( Lee Oswald was wearing a REDDISH BROWN SHIRT with a BUTTON DOWN COLLAR, and dark grey trousers)

Whaley told the FBI that his infamous passenger was wearing a brown shirt, nothing about any jacket.

[Bill Brown]

C) The WC investigators determined that when Lee left the TSBD he walked east on Elm street and boarded a bus at Murphy street at 12:40. When the bus became stuck in traffic he got off the bus at 12:44, and walked to the taxi stand at the Greyhound bus depot.

D) Lee hired a CITY taxi to take him to the rooming house in Oak Cliff and entered the taxi at 12:48.

E) During the trip Lee said he and the driver of the CITY cab talked and the driver told him that the President had been shot. ( Whaley said that his passenger would not engage in conversation )

F) Lee arrived at the rooming house at 1:00pm,  and he paid the driver 85 CENTS.  ( Whaley recorded that he charged the young man who was dressed in A BLUE JACKET and BLUE trousers 95 CENTS and the man handed him a dollar bill and told him to keep the change)

The Secret Service and the FBI reconstructed Oswald's steps (with the help of Cecil McWatters and William Whaley) in an attempt the determine the absolute earliest that Oswald could have reached the rooming house.

Based on McWatters' statement of where it was that Oswald boarded the bus (we know Oswald boarded that bus because he had McWatters' specific bus transfer and McWatters said he issued that transfer to only one woman and only one man), Oswald walked about seven blocks east (into the downtown area) after he left the Depository within three minutes of the shooting.

"So I gave her a transfer and opened the door and she was going out the gentleman I had picked up about two blocks (back) asked for a transfer and got off at the same place in the middle of the block where the lady did.  It was the intersection near Lamar Street, it was near Poydras and Lamar Street." -- Cecil McWatters

They concluded, based on what McWatters told them (along with the Secret Service agents and FBI agents walking the route in an average time of six and a half minutes), that Oswald boarded the bus around 12:40 near the intersection of Field St. and Elm St. and then, after being on the bus for no more than four minutes, Oswald got off the bus near Lamar St. and Elm St. (asking for the transfer as he got off the bus).

So now we have Oswald leaving the bus around 12:44.

Oswald then walked three to four short blocks to the Greyhound station where he boarded Whaley's cab.  This has Oswald entering the cab around 12:48.

They then, with Whaley, reconstructed the cab ride from the Greyhound to the intersection of Beckley and Neely (Oswald got out of the cab on Beckley just north of the intersection with Neely).  They concluded (using a stopwatch) that the cab ride took five minutes and thirty seconds.

So now we have Oswald exiting Whaley's cab on Beckley at 12:53-12:54.

Still using the stopwatch, they concluded that it was a five minute and forty-five second walk from the point Oswald exited the cab back to the rooming house.

I think Oswald got to the rooming house between 12:58 and 1:00 and was back in his room just long enough to grab a jacket before hurrying out the door, zipping up the jacket as he went out the door.

[Alan Ford]

Whaley told the FBI that his infamous passenger was wearing a brown shirt, nothing about any jacket.

So your key witness perjured himself when giving his WC testimony? Got it! 

Speaking of what Mr Whaley told the FBI, this is from 11/23------------------



Therefore, according to your methodology, your key witness also perjured himself when he told the WC that he dropped Mr Oswald off at the 700 block

[Walt Cakebread]

So your key witness perjured himself when giving his WC testimony? Got it! 

Speaking of what Mr Whaley told the FBI, this is from 11/23------------------



Therefore, according to your methodology, your key witness also perjured himself when he told the WC that he dropped Mr Oswald off at the 700 block

I'd bet that Whaley's passenger was down to his last dollar, and when he saw the meter flip to 95 cents he told Whaley to pull over and he'd get out....