Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #147 on: October 07, 2021, 01:53:06 AM »
I'd bet that Whaley's passenger was down to his last dollar, and when he saw the meter flip to 95 cents he told Whaley to pull over and he'd get out....
But the fare said 'keep the change' so he still had another $.05 travel money left.

I'm perfectly aware of Whaley's testimony in 1964.  It is YOU who is unaware of what Whaley told the FBI soon after the assassination.
I am more concerned about what the Feddos had Whaley say come testimony time. You cannot pick and choose which parts of his statements support your belief. The fare either had a jacket on or he didn't....either dropped off at the 500 block or he didn't.
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Mr. BELIN. Mr. Whaley, today at noon there were six people including yourself that got in the car to travel that route that you drove a passenger on November 22, is that correct?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. One of them is sitting here in this room, Dr. Goldberg, over there. Do you see him?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Then you and I got in the car, and then Secret Service Agent John Joe Howlett. We drove in his car and he was the driver, wasn't he?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Then there was Mr. Joe Ball, Joseph A. Ball, and then a Mr. Davis, this tall light-haired person?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Mr. Davis is from the attorney general's office in Texas. Now what is the fact as to whether or not we went to the Greyhound Bus Depot here in Dallas?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Did you point out the place where you said you picked up this passenger?
Mr. WHALEY. I did, sir.
Mr. BELIN. We had a stopwatch, didn't we?
Never mind there Whaley...we are in control.
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Mr. WHALEY. When I got to Beckley almost to the intersection of Beckley and Neely, he said, "This will do right here." and I pulled up to the curb
Mr. BELIN. Was that the 500 block of North Beckley?
Mr. WHALEY. No, sir; that was the 700 block.
Mr. BELIN. You let him out not at the 500 block but the 700 block of North Beckley?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir.
Yes sir...no sir... which way did I go sir? 

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #148 on: October 07, 2021, 02:38:40 AM »
But the fare said 'keep the change' so he still had another $.05 travel money left.
I am more concerned about what the Feddos had Whaley say come testimony time. You cannot pick and choose which parts of his statements support your belief. The fare either had a jacket on or he didn't....either dropped off at the 500 block or he didn't. Never mind there Whaley...we are in control.Yes sir...no sir... which way did I go sir? 

But the fare said 'keep the change' so he still had another $.05 travel money left.

But if the man had stayed in the taxi until the meter incremented to the next number he would have had to pay $1.05...

I am more concerned about what the Feddos had Whaley say come testimony time. You cannot pick and choose which parts of his statements support your belief. The fare either had a jacket on or he didn't....either dropped off at the 500 block or he didn't.

There's no need to pick and choose....  The WC investigators showed us that Lee couldn't have arrived at the Greyhound taxi stand prior to 12:48.....  And Whaley had departed from the Greyhound, at least ten minutes before Lee arrived.


Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #149 on: October 07, 2021, 03:02:42 AM »
 

But if the man had stayed in the taxi until the meter incremented to the next number he would have had to pay $1.05...
Do you think that old cab driver would step out and give some young guy an allocation of whipass over a nickel? 
But never mind that. The fare said specifically 'the 500 block...N Beckley'. Why? That is at the intersection of Davis and Beckley and an easy 10 minutes walk to 10th and Patton. This--- 'Oswald was/must have been scoping out the rooming house' is purely illogical speculation.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #150 on: October 07, 2021, 03:42:26 AM »
Do you think that old cab driver would step out and give some young guy an allocation of whipass over a nickel? 
But never mind that. The fare said specifically 'the 500 block...N Beckley'. Why? That is at the intersection of Davis and Beckley and an easy 10 minutes walk to 10th and Patton. This--- 'Oswald was/must have been scoping out the rooming house' is purely illogical speculation.

Jerry .... Whaley at some point said... The guy who was wearing a blue jacket looked like he had just arrived on a bus , and was tired and not talkative....  He obviously knew his way around Oak cliff because he thought that he had enough money to get to the 500 block of N. Beckley.    When he saw the meter flip to 95 cents he knew that he had consumed the dollar he he had in his pocket....so he asked Whaley to pull over to the curb and let him out of the cab.....


The fare said specifically 'the 500 block...N Beckley'. Why? That is at the intersection of Davis and Beckley and an easy 10 minutes walk to 10th and Patton.

I suspect that Whaley's passenger lived near the intersection of Davis and Beckley.....  And thought the dollar would take him home.....  He may have used a taxi to travel from the bus depot to home on previous occasions but Whaley took a slighly longer route and the Dollar was not going to cover the cost of the trip.

Of course this is simply speculation but it is a fact that Whaley's passenger WAS NOT Lee Oswald.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #151 on: October 07, 2021, 07:15:17 PM »
One of the many weaknesses of the official story of how Mr Oswald got to Beckley is his alleged decision to catch a bus on Elm St that would quite predictably end up snarled in traffic before taking its passengers into the same Dealey Plaza from which Mr Oswald was so desperate to get away from. Preposterous!

If Mr Oswald wanted to get a bus, he would have kept walking south on Houston

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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #152 on: October 07, 2021, 07:54:28 PM »
One of the many weaknesses of the official story of how Mr Oswald got to Beckley is his alleged decision to catch a bus on Elm St that would quite predictably end up snarled in traffic before taking its passengers into the same Dealey Plaza from which Mr Oswald was so desperate to get away from. Preposterous!

If Mr Oswald wanted to get a bus, he would have kept walking south on Houston

Any bus that was going to Oak Cliff would have passed by on Houston before the motorcade and it would have been long gone so there was no opportunity to catch a bus by walking south on Houston.

We simply don't know what Lee was thinking.....   He may have boarded the bus to get an opportunity to sit down and think.

I do believe that he had an appointment to keep in the Texas theater, and he wanted to get there as fast as possible.  Thus he got off the bus and walked to the Greyhound taxi stand, and hired a City cab at 12:48 driven by "mr Smith" not Wild William Whaley.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #153 on: October 07, 2021, 11:40:31 PM »
Do you think that old cab driver would step out and give some young guy an allocation of whipass over a nickel? 
But never mind that. The fare said specifically 'the 500 block...N Beckley'. Why? That is at the intersection of Davis and Beckley and an easy 10 minutes walk to 10th and Patton. This--- 'Oswald was/must have been scoping out the rooming house' is purely illogical speculation.

Lee Oswald told Fritz that he gave the taxi driver 85 cents to pay for his fare to Beckley and Zangs

Whaley charged his passenger 95 cents for the ride to 700 N. Beckley, and Whaley said the man gave him a dollar.

What can we conclude about these two different accounts ??