Oswald: No power lunch

[Martin Weidmann]

Have you got a photo? So you were only standing at the window but according to Brennan, Oswald was sitting on the window sill, which would have placed him much closer to Elm street and allowed a much better view of what was below. And from Oswald's position sitting on the window sill with only a slight lean, Oswald could have seen directly below just like you said above, "unless that person's torso was hanging out of the window"



JohnM

Still desperately trying to avoid answering my question? Why am I not surprised?


And from Oswald's position sitting on the window sill with only a slight lean, Oswald could have seen directly below just like you said above, "unless that person's torso was hanging out of the window"

A slight lean? You clearly have never been there. Brennan was sitting on a wall two streets away from the TSBD.
Norman and Jarman were on the sidewalk next to the TSBD. It doesn't take a genius to work out the difference, which is probably why you seem to be struggling. If Norman and Jarman were right in front of the TSBD, there is no way anybody could have seen them from the 6th floor window. But even if they could have been seen, it would be insignificant, unless you're trying to concoct a story about Oswald guessing about their subsequent actions and actually getting it right.

If that's what you are trying to say, why do you hesitate to answer my question?

[John Mytton]

calm down and let's have a civilized conversation.

   Yer joking ...    I don't believe it's possible to have a rational conversation with you Mr. M.    You don't even recognize that Bill Whaley said that his passenger was wearing a BLUE JACKET and BLUE trousers.  ...And that most certainly was NOT Lee Oswald.

Right on queue, whenever your team mates are struggling out you pop to give your 2 cents, and this time with an attempted diversion, nice.

JohnM

[John Mytton]

A slight lean? You clearly have never been there.

Even if you were there, the photo I posted shows you could never get even close to see what Oswald could see. Try again and repeating that you were there doesn't prove your speculation.



JohnM

[Bill Chapman]

Right on queue, whenever your team mates are struggling out you pop to give your 2 cents, and this time with an attempted diversion, nice.

JohnM

If I say 'a penny for your thoughts' and you put your two-cents worth in, who gets the extra penny? -Steven Wright

[Martin Weidmann]

Even if you were there, the photo I posted shows you could never get even close to see what Oswald could see. Try again and repeating that you were there doesn't prove your speculation.



JohnM

Stop behaving as an idiot. The one speculating based on a worthless photo that proves nothing is you. But hey, what else is new?

I was at the window next to the sealed of area of the snipers nest. If anything there would have been a better view of what/who was on the sidewalk beneath the s/n window and even from there I couldn't see the sidewalk.  So your photo only shows you have a vivid imagination and and pretty nosensical narrative to defend about Oswald seeing Jarman and Norman right beneath him and guessing they went to the back of the building together, entered through the back door and walked towards the elevators (which is exactly what they did).

When you have to bend the facts and the truth to tell a false story, you've already lost the argument. You should know this by now. You been destroyed so many times before and still you do not learn..... Which is exactly why Walt is correct.

[Jon Banks]

The only reason for Oswald to be guessing would be to somehow establish an alibi for the time of the shooting. But what would be the purpose for him to somehow concoct an alibi for where he was some 5 minutes prior to the shooting?

Why try and make up an alibi by guessing about something that happened approx 5 minutes prior to the shooting and to just name some people he "guessed" could have been there? None of it makes any sense. Even more so, because it would be utterly stupid to tell this story, if it never happened in the first place, and he had no reasonable expectation of Norman and/or Jarman confirming it.

This whole "he could have guessed it" BS goes nowhere. It has been dreamed up by LNs who can not give a plausible explanation for Norman and Jarman being were Oswald said they were at the time he said they were.

It was possible to see the area of the shipping department behind the elevators through the door opening of the Domino room. Anybody who has seen a diagram of the first floor should know this. In fact, you could see all the way to the other side of the building, where the stairs were. As we know that Norman and Jarman did in fact leave their position on Elm Street, prior to the motorcade's arrivale, and walked on Houston to the back of the building, in order to enter it and take the elevator to the 5th floor, a far more credible explanation for Oswald's statement is that he was indeed in the Domino room at around 12:25, when he saw both men enter the building and walking towards the elevators. He saw them but they just didn't see him. What was written in the various reports were not Oswald's words verbatim, but distorted recollections from people who. most likely, had no first hand knowledge of the lay out of the building.

And Chapman, if you are going to use a photo, at least try to use one from the Domino room and not the 2nd floor lunchroom!

Bravo! 

[Jon Banks]

Being seen downstairs around noon does not preclude Oswald making it back upstairs with plenty of time to spare for him to do what he said he didn't do.

Never said those witnesses exonerate Oswald. Just noting that the WC and some LN'ers try extra hard to ignore the evidence that corroborates Oswald coming downstairs around noon. Maybe he went back to the Sixth Floor by 12:25. I don't know but it's very curious that the Warren Commission chose Fritz's recollection over other evidence that supported Oswald's claim of coming downstairs for lunch while the parade was happening...