Oswald: No power lunch

[Martin Weidmann]

Oswald never said he saw "Norman and Jarman entered the back of the building".

Oswald's in the SN waiting for the President to arrive and later -- having survived arrest -- he pulls out of the hat the names of the two men who were together and were beneath his window? Also he knows Williams wasn't originally with Norman and Jarman (how did Oswald know that?).

Even if they did, they didn't see Oswald. And if the line-of-sight was so restricted, it's just as unlikely someone in the Domino Room could see them.

Where's the statement or utterance from Oswald ...

• "that both men, after leaving the front of the building would stay together, walk down Houston and enter the back of the building."
• "Norman and Jarman entered the back of the building"
  

Oswald never said he saw "Norman and Jarman entered the back of the building"

Did I say he did? The fact is that we don't know what he said exactly as there is no verbatim record of what he said and the reports contradict eachother. The only constant is that Oswald told his interrogators that, while he was in the Domino room, he saw "Junior" and another man, just prior to the shots being fired. Low and behold, Jarman (known as Junior) and Norman did enter the back of the TSBD about five minutes prior to the assassination and Oswald could have seen them (and in my opinion did) from the Domino room.

Oswald's in the SN waiting for the President to arrive and later -- having survived arrest -- he pulls out of the hat the names of the two men who were together and were beneath his window? Also he knows Williams wasn't originally with Norman and Jarman (how did Oswald know that?).

I noticed you failed to answer my question. Very telling indeed! And where did you get from the Oswald knew Williams wasn't with Norman and Jarman? Are you making this stuff up?

Where's the statement or utterance from Oswald ...

• "that both men, after leaving the front of the building would stay together, walk down Houston and enter the back of the building."
• "Norman and Jarman entered the back of the building"
  

Oswald never said any of that. All he basically said was that he saw Junior and another man while he was eating his lunch. The available evidence tells us that if Oswald was in the Domino room, to eat his lunch, he could have seen Jarman and Norman entering the building from the back and walking towards the elevator. How does the evidence tell us this? Simply because both Jarman and Norman confirmed they were there at exactly that time that Oswald claimed he was in the Domino room. I don't believe in coincidence, do you?

[Walt Cakebread]

Mr. JARMAN - I was standing over to the right in front of the building going toward the west.
Mr. BALL - Were you on the sidewalk or curb?
Mr. JARMAN - On the sidewalk.
Mr. BALL - The sidewalk in front of the Texas School Book Depository Building?
Mr. JARMAN - Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL - How long did you stand there?
Mr. JARMAN - Well, until about 12:20, between 12:20 and 12:25.

Mr. BALL - You left there, didn't you, and went some place?
Mr. JARMAN - Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL - With whom?
Mr. JARMAN - Harold Norman and myself.
Mr. BALL - Where did you go?
Mr. JARMAN - We went around to the back of the building up to the fifth floor.
Mr. BALL - You say you went around. You mean you went around the building?
Mr. JARMAN - Right.
Mr. BALL - You didn't go through and cross the first floor?
Mr. JARMAN - No, sir; there was too many people standing on the stairway so we decided to go around.

Can't you comprehend the testimony?    Jarman said that he and Norman Were outside in front of the TSBD until about 12:20 / 12:25.

Mr. BALL - How long did you stand there?
Mr. JARMAN - Well, until about 12:20, between 12:20 and 12:25.

Elsewhere Jarman said that they arrived on the 5th floor at 12:28....  That would have placed them near the Domino room at about 12:26, and that's when Lee saw them walking by.   

 

[Martin Weidmann]

Why are you and Otto so Angry, calm down and let's have a civilized conversation.

Brennan saw Oswald sitting on the window sill so he obviously could check out who was below, and Oswald could have seen Jarman and Norman leave and go towards Houston and nobody has yet provided any line of sight evidence that this scenario was impossible.

JohnM

I am not angry. Stop the song and dance crap and answer my question.

Brennan was across the street on the wall. Norman and Jarman were not. I have stood at the window next to the sniper's nest and looked down. There is no way you can see anybody who is on the sidewalk in front of the TSBD.

Now answer my question. Did you make that claim or not?

[Walt Cakebread]

Why are you and Otto so Angry, calm down and let's have a civilized conversation.

Brennan saw Oswald sitting on the window sill so he obviously could check out who was below, and Oswald could have seen Jarman and Norman leave and go towards Houston and nobody has yet provided any line of sight evidence that this scenario was impossible.

JohnM

calm down and let's have a civilized conversation.

   Yer joking ...    I don't believe it's possible to have a rational conversation with you Mr. M.    You don't even recognize that Bill Whaley said that his passenger was wearing a BLUE JACKET and BLUE trousers.  ...And that most certainly was NOT Lee Oswald.

[Martin Weidmann]

calm down and let's have a civilized conversation.

   Yer joking ...    I don't believe it's possible to have a rational conversation with you Mr. M.    You don't even recognize that Bill Whaley said that his passenger was wearing a BLUE JACKET and BLUE trousers.  ...And that most certainly was NOT Lee Oswald.

I don't believe it's possible to have a rational conversation with you Mr. M. 

Indeed

[John Mytton]

I have stood at the window next to the sniper's nest and looked down.

Have you got a photo? So you were only standing at the window but according to Brennan, Oswald was sitting on the window sill, which would have placed him much closer to Elm street and allowed a much better view of what was below. And from Oswald's position sitting on the window sill with only a slight lean, Oswald could have seen directly below just like you said above, "unless that person's torso was hanging out of the window"



JohnM

[Alan Ford]

How did Mr Oswald know no one else had been in the Domino Room at 12:26? Could he see in there from the sixth floor?