Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?

[Tom Scully]

"Friday's child was FoS..."

Your witness, counselor!

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth815959/m1/8/?q=whaley
The Sulphur Springs Gazette. (Sulphur Springs, Tex.), Vol. 46, No. 25, Ed. 1 Friday, June 26, 1908 Page: 8 of 8




So, it is established that sometime after registering at his local Dallas draft board in 1940,

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51401605157_40322057c2_b.jpg

William Wayne Whaley moved his year of birth from the evidence supported 1908  to 1905 and in addition, no proof has surfaced of his earning of the Navy Cross in WWII combat.

Unless the O.W. Whaleys were blessed with the arrival of baby boys on both Friday, June 19, 1908, and on...



https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/13730776/william-wayne-whaley


"...Strangers waiting
Up and down the boulevard
Their shadows searching in the night

Streetlights people
Livin' just to find emotion
Hidin' somewhere in the night

Don't stop believin'
Hold on to that feelin'.."

[Walt Cakebread]

Looks like it would be easy enough to throw CTers/JAQers/OAKers/HSDOers off-the-scent by simply heading off in a direction opposite 1056, then pulling a (walking) U-turn asa Whaley disappears from sight.




billchapman

heading off in a direction opposite 1056,

Can't you even remember a simple address?....  The address of the rooming house was 1026 N Beckley.

And wow!    You're so alert and smart....   I doubt than anybody else would have deduced that Lee Oswald was so clever that he could have initially started walking AWAY from the rooming house but as soon as the taxi was out of sight he turned around and dashed to the rooming house. 



 

[Walt Cakebread]

The title of the thread describes the stories of the rather leisurely escape transport modes of "the lone assassin with a scrambled egg for a brain," as "innocent Bus and Cab rides".

Can we at least stipulate both "escape ride stories" are only as innocent as the presenters of them? In this thread I have established that Mary Bledsoe was the first cousin of RD Matthew's first cousin, "Jake" Germany, son of Bledsoe's uncle Jewell Rawlston Germany and Matthew's aunt, Adelaide Senter Germany.
In this earler post in this thread,

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3071.msg115670.html#msg115670

..I established that Matthews and Jake Germany were born about a year apart and resided in a household in 1930 that included the two boys, the two Senter sisters (Matthew's mother and her sister Adelaide, Bledsoe's aunt by marriage) and the grandmother of both boys, Ida Senter.

In 1961, the record available @Mary Ferrell archive supports that the ex-wife of RD Matthews and mother of his daughter contacted law enforcement out of concern that her teen aged daughter had gone to visit Matthews and the ex-wife was concerned Matthews would turn their own daughter out as a prostitute.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=115165#relPageId=10


Considering RD Matthew's associations and reputation as an enforcer of gambling debt collection, IOW, a "bone breaker," is it not conceivable he was "pulling the strings" of the nearly incoherent "witness," Mary Bledsoe?

In the past, WC Report "custodians" posting on this forum attempted to explain away the evidence-rich observation that, sometime after 1940, taxi driver, WC witness William W. Whaley changed his d.o.b. from June 19, 1908, to June 19, 1905. If Whaley lied about that, and lied in claiming to Aynesworth that he was awarded the Navy Cross for combat activity "over Iwo Jima" in 1945, how would he not be relegated to the "circus clown" witness status of Earline Roberts of, "I had to let her go.... she is a teller of tall tales," as described in the WC testimony of Gladys Johnson, owner of the North Beckley rooming house Earline Roberts was employed in on 11/22/63 as the housekeeper?

One WCR "custodian" explained away the fact that Whaley moving his birth year from 1905 resulted in his mother, Lona Haynes Elam, being impregnated at age 15 and marrying in 1907, two years after Whaley's birth,  by speculating that Whaley was in fact born in 1905 and the 1908 birth year in all Whaley related records up to and including his 1940 military draft registration record, and in the Whaley family bible and in a genealogy published in 1935 (see image, above) were to conceal Whaley's mother's shame over giving birth two years before marrying Whaley's father, Oscar?

So... my question is, who was caring for the "baby Whaley" allegedly born on June 19, 1905, while Whaley's mother was living as a typical teen ager, seven months later, in Fedruary, 1906?

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/53993969/lona-haynes-whaley
Lona Haynes Elam Whaley

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth816095/m1/6/?q=%22lona%20elam%22


These incidents took place just two weeks before the birth on June 19, 1908, of the William Wayne Whaley of Dallas who registered for the military draft in 1940, providing that d.o.b. to the local draft board. Lona Elam Whaley's mother died in 1903, so was absent when her father and two siblings journeyed from Shelbyville, TN to participate in family activity related to the impending birth (and after) of "the other" William Wayne Whaley!

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth816243/m1/8/?q=oscar%20whaley
June 5, 1908


https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/111783808/eliza-j-whaley

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3071.msg115670.html#msg115670

I read the news paper "story" that was written by Hugh Ainsworth, and he should have open the story with "Once Upon a Time "..... Like all fairy tales....

I've never read such rubbish .....   Ainsworth makes up "evidence" and passes it off as if it factual informetion.


 

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt, RE your PS, what you state is in the report by Kelley you refer to (page 626), top of second paragraph. I haven't seen bus-to-theater told elsewhere....or I might have misunderstood your question.

Hi Otto,  I don't know if you've seen the movie "The Thin Blue Line", or read the book on which the movie is based....

he book is titled Adam's versus Texas and it's the true story of Randall Adams and how he was railroaded by Henry Wade and the Dallas Police and convicted of the murder of a police officer and sent to death row.    Adams was absolutely innocent but that didn't stop the Texans from convicting him....    If you haven't read the book and you have some time, please read it.  I'll will open your eyes to the sickening corruption of the DPD, and how they make a mockery of the law.   It's the same DPD officers who framed Lee Oswald....

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt, thanks for the tip I've put it on my list 

Have you noticed that in none of the reports that concern Oswald's interrogations was he asked what the hell he was doing at 10th & Patton?

Really?

No. I've never noticed....  But Perhaps Fritz didn't ask what he was doing at tenth and Patton because Lee had already told him he hadrode a bus from the vicinity of the rooming house to the theater, so Fritz didn't want to reveal the location of Tippit's murder.    If Fritz had asked Lee what he he was doing at 10th and Patton Lee of course would have denied ever being at 10th & Patton .  ( Truthfully , Because Lee was not at 10th & Patton) 

Page 626 WR.....   "In response to questions put by Captain Fritz,Oswald said that immediately after having left the building where he worked, he went by bus to the theater where he was arrested;  that when he got on the bus he secured a transfer and thereafter transferred to other buses to get to his destination".

I believe that he did in fact ride a bus from the rooming house to the theater....but he had forgot to take the transfer with him when he left the rooming house and therefore simply paid the bus fare when he boarded the bus.   

Naturally this bit of information has been omitted in the various reports  because if Lee rode a bus from his rooming house to the Theater then of course he couldn't have been the man who shot JD Tippit.

Mr. FRITZ. .... I asked him what happened there when he caught the cab and he said there was a lady trying to catch a cab and he told the busdriver, the busdriver told him to tell the lady to catch the cab behind him and he said he rode that cab over near his home, he rode home in a cab.

[Walt Cakebread]

The Whaley journey under discussion is the one where Whaley transported Oswald but now you seem to be saying that there were two young men, both slender, both about 5'8", both wearing a shiny bracelet on their left wrist, both looked to be 25-26yo, both wearing a dark shirt, both were going to Beckley, both said a lady was trying catch a cab at the same time and they both left Dallas within minutes of each other, and you say that I'm the one who's confused? 



JohnM

This story of a lady asking to hire the taxi originated with Lee Oswald....    Lee told the interrogators that after he entered the CITY  cab that was driven by Darryl Glick , a old woman stuck her head in the window and requested that Glick call a taxi for her.    When Fritz heard this detail he told Whaley that Lee had said that an old woman had approached the cab and asked the driver to call a cab for her.....Whaley picked up on that and realized that the story would bolster his lie that he had transported Lee Oswald .  Thus he said that the incident happened just after the man who was wearing a BLUE JACKET, had sat down on the passenger side of the front seat.   

[John Mytton]

Lee told the interrogators that after he entered the CITY  cab that was driven by Darryl Glick

Darryl Glick? Hahaha!

Listen to Henry Wade and the "In Oak Cliff" not "Darryl Glick" in context.

JohnM