Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?

[Dan O'meara]

Don't expect an answer anytime this century, this is the very meat and potatoes of my thread question, the reason they are so obsessed with disproving the bus and cab rides is that they can't move forward because they are stuck in a classic "KookLoop", they lack the deductive reasoning skills to formulate an alternative so they just keep repeating the same nonsense again and again and again, since their very first posts they ignore all the powerful evidence presented as refutation and still haven't moved forward one iota.
This discussion will never get off first base and for some reason these ignorant "researchers" are happy to just stay there and pretend that they are Defence Lawyers so as to continually create chaos and achieve nothing.

JohnM

This case is rife with discrepancy, inconsistency and contradiction. Witnesses can be unreliable, forgetful, plain stupid, fearful of authority and any other number of human fallibilities. The investigation and subsequent enquiry are fraught with unbelievable incompetence and no little corruption leading to an almost impenetrable maze of misdirection.
It is the simplest of tasks to point out this discrepancy and that contradiction and cry "conspiracy" but where all CTers fail is their inability to provide an overarching narrative that makes more sense than that of the LNers.
That is the strength of the LN position - a narrative.
Until CTers can provide an alternative narrative they are just a bunch of children whining about the details and inventing hoaxes they never have to explain.

[John Mytton]

Psssst Johnny....  Did you just wake up from your nappy?.....  I've already answered Dan's question.....Just wipe the stuff from your eyes and read my posts....

I have asked you the same question on multiple occasions and you responded with the go nowhere response of "I'll answer your question if you first answer my question" but I do see after more than a week, that 5 minutes before my post you gave an answer. Hooray.

But your answer you gave, that you believe that a cab did take Oswald to his rooming house but just not Whaley's cab is pretty funny and it makes me wonder why you fought so hard and for so long against Whaley's journey when another cab get's you no closer to proving Oswald's "innocence", and this attitude of wasting your time and simply replacing "A" with "B" to get the same result goes a long way to proving to me that you are not here to solve anything.

JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

This case is rife with discrepancy, inconsistency and contradiction. Witnesses can be unreliable, forgetful, plain stupid, fearful of authority and any other number of human fallibilities. The investigation and subsequent enquiry are fraught with unbelievable incompetence and no little corruption leading to an almost impenetrable maze of misdirection.
It is the simplest of tasks to point out this discrepancy and that contradiction and cry "conspiracy" but where all CTers fail is their inability to provide an overarching narrative that makes more sense than that of the LNers.
That is the strength of the LN position - a narrative.
Until CTers can provide an alternative narrative they are just a bunch of children whining about the details and inventing hoaxes they never have to explain.

That is the strength of the LN position - a narrative.

If that "narrative" was the result of a fair and balanced investigation you might have a point. Since it clearly wasn't, you haven't

[Dan O'meara]

I'm not sure that he was on Cecil Mc Watters bus....Bledsoe was mentally incompetent.. ( she may have had Altzheimers)

And Mc Watters said that he was thinking of another passenger who laughed when he told Mc Watters that JFK had been shot in the head.

But .... There is the transfer that Mc Watter's said he issued that allegedly was found in Lee's shirt pocket.    But ...I do believe that Lee rode in a CITY cab from the Greyhound bus depot to the intersection of Beckley & Zangs......

I suspect there was something more sinister with Bledsoe's testimony than just mental incompetence.

I find the transfer ticket very interesting.
Why not just get off the bus and catch a cab to the rooming house?
Why get a transfer ticket unless he intended to use it at some point?

[Dan O'meara]

That is the strength of the LN position - a narrative.

If that "narrative" was the result of a fair and balanced investigation you might have a point. Since it clearly wasn't, you haven't

I make the point that the investigation was both incompetent and corrupt. As was the subsequent enquiry.
The LN narrative exists whether you like it or not and you, Martin, are the classic example of a whining CTer picking over every little detail without providing an alternative explanation or a narrative of your own.

[Richard Smith]

I suspect there was something more sinister with Bledsoe's testimony than just mental incompetence.

I find the transfer ticket very interesting.
Why not just get off the bus and catch a cab to the rooming house?
Why get a transfer ticket unless he intended to use it at some point?

He likely did intend to use it.  As I recall, there was a bus transfer stop at Marsalis and Jefferson where it could be used. Three blocks from where he encountered Tippit.  There is an informative Belin report on the Dallas bus system.

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0393/23811297.pdf

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0393/23811296.pdf

[Walt Cakebread]

I suspect there was something more sinister with Bledsoe's testimony than just mental incompetence.

I find the transfer ticket very interesting.
Why not just get off the bus and catch a cab to the rooming house?
Why get a transfer ticket unless he intended to use it at some point?

Why get a transfer ticket unless he intended to use it at some point?

I believe he did intend to use that transfer....  He knew when he left the TSBD that he was going to the theater.   He also knew that a second bus about ten minutes behind Mc Watter's bus traveled through down town Dallas and out to Oakcliff by a different route than Mc Watters bus. That second bus traveled down Elm and through Dealey plaza and beneath the RR underpass  then turned left toward Oakcliff and traveled South on Beckley to Jefferson and then turned right  and continued on it's designated route.    Since that bus was about ten minutes behind Mcwatters bus Lee reasoned that if he got to the rooming house early enough he would have time to change his clothes and then run out and use the transfer to ride the bus that was traveling south toward Jefferson and the Texas theater.