Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #189 on: September 08, 2021, 02:45:27 AM »


Round and round we go and now at way over 200 posts, we have 1 CT Walt giving a lame ass excuse for doubting the official version with another equally innocent explanation? So far not one CT can come up with an alternative narrative much less an alternative that proves Oswald's "innocence", so I gotta ask what are the CT's trying to accomplish here with what you must all know only amounts to worthless go nowhere arguments because it's obvious that not one of you has any interest in solving your "conspiratorial" crime and mistakenly think that creating doubt for the sake of chaos is the answer, but the answer to what?

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Round and round we go and now at way over 200 posts, we have 1 CT Walt giving a lame ass excuse for doubting the official version with another equally innocent explanation? So far not one CT can come up with an alternative narrative much less an alternative that proves Oswald's "innocence",

Yes,  and the reason we go round and round is because you're apparently too damned dumb to comprehend that the WC investigators found that Lee was still at the TSBD at 12:33, and he couldn't possible have been at the Greyhound bus depot in time ( at 12:3? ) to have boarded Whaley's taxi. They said that Lee would have arrived at the Taxi stand at the bus depot at about 12:48( that's three minutes AFTER Whaley dropped the man who was wearing a BLUE JACKET, off at 500 N Beckley.)   

So far not one CT can come up with an alternative narrative

Huh?? have you got your head so far tucked that you can't read...Lee told Fritz that he took a city bus to the theater ( read Thomas Kelley's report on page 626 of WR)   It's true that Lee said that he took one bus from Elm and Lamar and rode it all the way to Jefferson, and the Texas Theater.   ( At least that's the way the interrogators recorded Lee's answer ...But he did say that he transferred from bus to bus to reach various destinations in Dallas.)    The way I see it Lee told them that he rode a bus to the theater.  Naturally they had to cover up this statement because if he had rode a bus to the theater then he couldn't possibly have been at 10 & Patton when JD Tippit was murdered.    Thus it was crucial to eliminate Lee's statement ....

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #190 on: September 08, 2021, 03:23:48 AM »
So far not one CT can come up with an alternative narrative much less an alternative that proves Oswald's "innocence"

Since when does somebody's innocence needs to proven? The last time I looked the onus was and is on the prosecution to prove somebody guilty. But thank your for exposing your Salem like "guilty unless prove innocent" mindset

Yeah, and thank you for unnecessarily reiterating the legal principles of innocent until proven guilty but how about you stop sidestepping the actual issue and answer the question that was posed waaaaaaay back at start of this thread?

Innocent of the shooting or not, Oswald still got from the TSBD to his boarding house somehow. Whatever method or route he took makes no difference to what he may or may not have done on the sixth floor a few minutes earlier.
Why is it such a big deal to disprove Oswald got in Whaley's cab? What difference does it make? If he got a different cab, a helicopter or even ran the whole way, what would it prove?
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #191 on: September 08, 2021, 03:48:46 AM »
Yeah, thanks for unnessessarily reiterating the legal principles of innocent until proven guilty but how about you stop sidestepping the actual issue and answer the question that was posed waaaaaaay back at start of this thread?

Innocent of the shooting or not, Oswald still got from the TSBD to his boarding house somehow. Whatever method or route he took makes no difference to what he may or may not have done on the sixth floor a few minutes earlier.
Why is it such a big deal to disprove Oswald got in Whaley's cab? What difference does it make? If he got a different cab, a helicopter or even ran the whole way, what would it prove?

you stop sidestepping the actual issue and answer the question that was posed waaaaaaay back at start of this thread?

You are talking to the wrong person. The question asked at the beginning of this thread is of very little interest to me. I couldn't care less how Oswald got to the roominghouse. It is of little or no significance at all to either the Kennedy or Tippit murder. All we really need to know is - if Earlene Roberts is to be believed - is that Oswald arrived at the roominghouse at about 1 pm. Everything else is just window dressing.

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #192 on: September 08, 2021, 03:54:06 AM »

So far not one CT can come up with an alternative narrative

Huh?? have you got your head so far tucked that you can't read...Lee told Fritz that he took a city bus to the theater ( read Thomas Kelley's report on page 626 of WR)   It's true that Lee said that he took one bus from Elm and Lamar and rode it all the way to Jefferson, and the Texas Theater.   ( At least that's the way the interrogators recorded Lee's answer ...But he did say that he transferred from bus to bus to reach various destinations in Dallas.)    The way I see it Lee told them that he rode a bus to the theater.  Naturally they had to cover up this statement because if he had rode a bus to the theater then he couldn't possibly have been at 10 & Patton when JD Tippit was murdered.    Thus it was crucial to eliminate Lee's statement ....

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The way I see it Earlene Roberts' statement that Oswald arrived at his rooming house at 1pm and left soon after would surely have been enough to prove that Lee's claim of getting a direct bus to the Theatre from Elm and Lamar was complete bullshit.
Why go to all the bother of creating a fake taxi ride? And if you are going to go to all the bother, why not at least write down the correct times of the alleged fake taxi fare in the taxi driver's journal?
Or even better, bearing in mind there were no recordings and barely any witnesses to Oswald's statement, why not just completely ignore it and not report it all and then there wouldn't be any need to eliminate Oswald's statement in the first place.

I know these questions have been asked several times before on this thread, but as usual, nobody has answered them and have preferred to go off on a tangent about something else like the ins and outs of 'innocent until proven guilty' because they think it scores them petty points in an argument without addressing the actual question.

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #193 on: September 08, 2021, 03:58:42 AM »
you stop sidestepping the actual issue and answer the question that was posed waaaaaaay back at start of this thread?

You are talking to the wrong person. The question asked at the beginning of this thread is of very little interest to me.

Well that's all very convenient, isn't it, Weidmann. Jump in on a thread with petty arguments but when asked to comment on the actual reasoning behind the thread you claim you're not interested.

Why don't you just go and comment on a thread that does interest you rather than just sitting there adding irrelevant crap to this one then?
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #194 on: September 08, 2021, 04:03:55 AM »
Well that's all very convenient, isn't it, Weidmann. Jump in on a thread with petty arguments but when asked to comment on the actual reasoning behind the thread you claim you're not interested.

Why don't you just go and comment on a thread that does interest you rather than just sitting there adding irrelevant crap to this one then?

Well that's all very convenient, isn't it, Weidmann.

Yes it is..  Thumb1:

Why don't you just go and comment on a thread that does interest you rather than just sitting there adding irrelevant crap to this one then?

Why don't you stop pretending to be relevant enough to tell others what to do, because you are not.

Offline Vincent Baxter

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #195 on: September 08, 2021, 04:11:48 AM »

Why don't you just go and comment on a thread that does interest you rather than just sitting there adding irrelevant crap to this one then?

Why don't you stop pretending to be relevant enough to tell others what to do, because you are not.

Great comeback, Weidmann.
That certainly showed me.
What are you 12 years old?
I shall definitely take what you said on board and think twice about it next time now that I know that this is the type of devastating abuse I might be on the receiving end of.  ::)