Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #175 on: September 07, 2021, 04:43:14 PM »
Clearly?



Btw Found the Dallas Newspaper with that photo yet, -------keep looking!  Thumb1

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Perhaps Whaley did see an ID bracelet on the wrist of his passenger who was wearing a BLUE JACKET and BLUE trousers.
ID Bracelets were very common ......  a large percentage of young men wore them....


But the Fact remains Lee Oswald could not have been Whaley's passenger because Lee was wearing a reddish brown shirt with a BUTTON DOWN COLLAR and he was NOT wearing a BLUE JACKET.   And in addition to the clothing problem....The WC investigators determined that Lee Oswald couldn't have arrived at the taxi stand at the Greyhound bus depot any earlier than 12:48.    Whaley said that it was 12:30 when he started to go into the depot to buy a package of cigarettes and it was at that time that he noticed the young man who was wearing a BLUE JACKET approaching his cab.

Luckily the WC provided us with a nice overview of Oswald's (alleged) movements on page 158 of their report:

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0091b.htm

The WC investigators found that Lee Oswald had not yet departed from the TSBD at 12:33 ( 12:33 is about the time that Whaley departed from the Greyhound bus depot with the young man who was wearing a BLUE JACKET.)   The Wc investigators found that Lee Oswald boarded Mc Watter's bus at 12:40, and disembarked at 12:44.    They found that Lee Oswald then walked the two blocks to the Greyhound bus depot taxi stand and enter a CITY cab at 12:48.   Just as Lee was climbing into the cab a lady approached and asked the driver if he would call a cab for her.  Lee was dressed in a reddish brown shirt and dark grey trousers.   

Lee told Captain Fritz that he and the taxi driver talked as they rode along and the driver told him that JFK had been shot.  This clashes with Whaley's statement that his passenger was taciturn and unresponsive to his attempt at creating a conversation. Whaley said that He mentioned the sirens wailing in the vicinity and inquired if the man knew the reason for the sirens.   Clearly Whaley didn't know that JFK's motorcade was traveling down Main and the lead elements had their sirens wailing.  The question from Whaley also time stamps the event at about 12:30. Lee told Captain Fritz that the taxi fare was 85 cents, and Whaley said that the fare for his passenger was 95 cents.   85 cents is the correct fare for the 2.2 mile  trip.  There are many contradictions between Whaley's tale and Lee Oswald's account of his taxi ride.....   And the logical conclusion is....   Whaley was a big BSer.... and Lee Oswald was not his passenger.

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #176 on: September 07, 2021, 06:11:58 PM »
So you seemingly have no answers on how Oswald got to the Texas Theatre, duly noted.

JohnM

Back to the beginning .... Johnny.  I'll start out with  very simple and easy to answer questions..... According to William Whaley....

A) What COLOR  were the clothes that William Whaley said his passenger was wearing?

B) Did the Jacket and trousers the man was wearing match in color and fabric?

C) What color was the shirt that Lee Oswald was wearing at the TSBD that morning?   

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #177 on: September 07, 2021, 11:28:47 PM »
Back to the beginning .... Johnny.  I'll start out with  very simple and easy to answer questions..... According to William Whaley....

A) What COLOR  were the clothes that William Whaley said his passenger was wearing?

B) Did the Jacket and trousers the man was wearing match in color and fabric?

C) What color was the shirt that Lee Oswald was wearing at the TSBD that morning?

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From Whaleys 2nd day Affidavit he said Oswald had a dark shirt.



Bledsoe recognised the shirt



Btw you seem to agree that Oswald caught a cab to his rooming house, so besides attacking an alleged war hero what are you trying to achieve here?

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #178 on: September 07, 2021, 11:34:06 PM »
Bledsoe also recognised the shirt

ROFL

"Oswald" had left when she got on the bus.

Ok, whatever.

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #179 on: September 07, 2021, 11:51:16 PM »
For two(?) decades....

And you have been here two minutes and you still have mommies milk on your lips, when you have as much experience as me then you can be taken seriously but until then you are just an annoying child who has much to learn. Thumb1:

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #180 on: September 07, 2021, 11:56:02 PM »
First of all my name is John not Johnny.
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From Whaleys 2nd day Affidavit he said Oswald had a dark shirt.



Bledsoe recognised the shirt



Btw you seem to agree that Oswald caught a cab to his rooming house, so besides attacking an alleged war hero what are you trying to achieve here?

JohnM

First of all my name is John not Johnny.

Really? Wanna go that way?

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #181 on: September 08, 2021, 12:14:24 AM »
First of all my name is John not Johnny.
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From Whaleys 2nd day Affidavit he said Oswald had a dark shirt.



Bledsoe recognised the shirt



Btw you seem to agree that Oswald caught a cab to his rooming house, so besides attacking an alleged war hero what are you trying to achieve here?

JohnM

From Whaleys 2nd day Affidavit he said Oswald had a dark shirt.

Ok, Mr evasive....   So Whaley  Said that his passenger was wearing a "dark colored shirt"   But didn't he say that the dark shirt was worn beneath a BLUE JACKET .    A simple Yes, or No, will suffice....

Bledsoe recognised the shirt

Bledsoe who had dementia and couldn't remember ( she testified to that) was referring to the shirt that the FBI brought to her house and let her examine before she testified ....And they brought the shirt that Lee was wearing when he was dragged from the theater.  That was NOT the shirt he was wearing when he boarded the bus.   So yes the "forgetful Mrs Bledsoe recognized a shirt that they wanted her to identify.....but it was NOT the shirt Lee wore when he left TSBD.

Btw you seem to agree that Oswald caught a cab to his rooming house, so besides attacking an alleged war hero what are you trying to achieve here?

Yes indeed, Lee did ride in a CITY cab from the Greyhound bus depot to the intersection of Zang's and Beckley and he paid a fare of 85 cents.  Whereas Whaley's passenger who was wearing a BLUE JACKET and was dressed differently than Lee Oswald  paid a fare of 95 cents to travel past the rooming house to 500 N Beckley.

There's no record that Bill Whaley received any medals during his tenure in the Navy.    So it's fitting that you refer to him as an "alleged" war hero.  And I'm absolutely sure that you're not so stupid that you don't know what I'm trying to achieve...  I'm presenting evidence that shows that Bill Whaley's tale of transporting Lee Oswald to Oak Cliff is nothing but pure unadulterated BS.