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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #889 on: January 01, 2022, 03:25:44 AM »
So we have two different release dates on two different versions of the form:
DATE A: 3/24/64
DATE B: 3/26/64




Well! The date we see on this curtain-rod-fingerprinting evidence card from Lt. Day just so happens to be sandwiched between the two dates above:

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #890 on: January 01, 2022, 03:37:43 AM »

What you or your Warren Gullible friends have never been able to explain, Mr Smith, is why the numbers 275 and 276 were assigned by the WC to the Paine garage curtain rods in the first place. Why those numbers? Hm? Have you got an answer?

Thought not!  :D

Let's help Mr Smith, shall we?



Where did the number 270 come from as the number at which to start marking the RuthPaine Exhibits?

Well, I guess it's a little more subtle than Messrs Jenner & Howlett saying 'The heck with it, we'll just start with 275 and go straight for the damn curtain rods, which are the only reason we came all the way out here to Irving'..........

And remember! First thing tomorrow morning, the two curtain rods submitted to the crime lab 8 days ago will be formally released back to Agent Howlett----------yes, the selfsame man who is at this moment in the Paine garage in Irving solemnly 'receiving' two curtain rods on the record!
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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #891 on: August 03, 2022, 09:25:33 PM »
An outstanding find by the redoubtable Mr Pat Speer--------------



Here's his commentary (emphasis in bold mine, A.F.):

[...] Well, this led me to wonder if these rods weren't in fact some rods found in the depository, and if Oswald had actually brought some rods to work.. Upon further reading I realized that Oswald's landlady had told the FBI that she had in fact replaced a damaged curtain rod in Oswald's room on the morning after the assassination. So this led me to wonder how Joe Ball handled this when he questioned her on 4-1-64. Well, he didn't. Although the FBI was asked to talk to Mrs. Johnson on 3-16-64, the FBI failed to forward their report on their interview with Mrs. Johnson, in which she admitted sh'd replaced a damaged curtain rod on the morning of the 23rd, till 4-2-64. Well, this made little sense. The commission asked the FBI to talk to the Johnsons. Did they really turn around and take their testimony before reading the FBI's report? And, if so, did they really fail to follow up on the contents of the FBI's report, after being told there had been a damaged curtain rod in Oswald's room?

I then realized that every version of the FBI's report, in all the available files, had an anomaly. The date 4-1-64 had been changed to 4-2-64 on all the reports.

Well, this made me suspect that Ball knew about the damaged curtain rods when he spoke to the Johnsons on 4-1, and then roped the FBI into covering up his tracks.


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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #892 on: August 05, 2022, 06:11:24 AM »
An outstanding find by the redoubtable Mr Pat Speer--------------



Here's his commentary (emphasis in bold mine, A.F.):

[...] Well, this led me to wonder if these rods weren't in fact some rods found in the depository, and if Oswald had actually brought some rods to work.. Upon further reading I realized that Oswald's landlady had told the FBI that she had in fact replaced a damaged curtain rod in Oswald's room on the morning after the assassination. So this led me to wonder how Joe Ball handled this when he questioned her on 4-1-64. Well, he didn't. Although the FBI was asked to talk to Mrs. Johnson on 3-16-64, the FBI failed to forward their report on their interview with Mrs. Johnson, in which she admitted sh'd replaced a damaged curtain rod on the morning of the 23rd, till 4-2-64. Well, this made little sense. The commission asked the FBI to talk to the Johnsons. Did they really turn around and take their testimony before reading the FBI's report? And, if so, did they really fail to follow up on the contents of the FBI's report, after being told there had been a damaged curtain rod in Oswald's room?

I then realized that every version of the FBI's report, in all the available files, had an anomaly. The date 4-1-64 had been changed to 4-2-64 on all the reports.

Well, this made me suspect that Ball knew about the damaged curtain rods when he spoke to the Johnsons on 4-1, and then roped the FBI into covering up his tracks.


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Interesting about the damaged curtain rod and then we have the transposed "2" over the "1".         

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #893 on: August 05, 2022, 03:33:24 PM »
Already explained, Mr Smith---------those were the exact length markings

Oh but there is for '27.5'. The ink for '27.6' may simply not have transferred if Lt. Day was writing in haste



Unreal.  There are clearly no such decimal points.  None.  Anyone can look at the document and see that.  Your fictional explanation for that is a great source of amusement, however (i.e. Day was writing in haste - HA HA HA).  Comedy gold.  And to suggest that it is just a remarkable coincidence the "length" of these curtain rods coincides exactly to the WC exhibit number for the curtain rods defies response.  Again, though, if you believe this document proves a conspiracy to assassinate JFK, please forward this information to the NY Times for their assessment instead of posting it here over and over again.  Get back to us with their response. 

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #894 on: August 05, 2022, 03:36:14 PM »
And to suggest that it is just a remarkable coincidence the "length" of these curtain rods coincides exactly to the WC exhibit number for the curtain rods defies response.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #895 on: August 05, 2022, 03:48:08 PM »
I fully agree, Mr Smith----------well said, sir!  Thumb1:

LOL.  That's because you don't understand.  It is humorous, though, that you attribute no decimal points to Day being in haste in writing the document.  Of course, it is a completely baseless claim to suggest he was in "haste", but you apparently don't entertain the possibility of his getting the date wrong because he was in this same "haste." 

When will you be contacting the NY Times with this evidence of a conspiracy?