57 years: Does it matter how we remember 11-22-63?

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: 57 years: Does it matter how we remember 11-22-63?
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2020, 03:32:59 AM »
So what are the alternative, reasonable explanations for:
Goldilocks and The Three Bears--- do you believe that one too?

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Re: 57 years: Does it matter how we remember 11-22-63?
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2020, 05:12:08 AM »
Goldilocks and The Three Bears--- do you believe that one too?
Let's face it. If this was about some random person being shot on the street by someone with a rifle on the sixth floor, you would not be  quibbling about the sufficiency of the evidence to convict Oswald as the shooter.  So the dispute is not about evidence. There is plenty of evidence to connect the dots.

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Re: 57 years: Does it matter how we remember 11-22-63?
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2020, 05:59:54 AM »
So what are the alternative, reasonable explanations for:
1. Oswald leaving the TSBD without telling anyone, including Roy Truly.

There was no more work that day. All the employees were dismissed. We don’t know exactly when.

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2. Oswald willing to spend a significant portion of his daily wage on a taxi to get home quickly.

We don’t know for a fact that he did. But that’s evidence of murder?

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3. Oswald not remaining at his rooming house for more than a few minutes but getting his hand gun.

You don’t know that he got a handgun at the rooming house. That’s pure conjecture.

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4. Oswald shooting Officer Tippitt.

That’s one of the things you’re trying to prove.

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5. Oswald entering the Texas Theater without paying.

Nobody saw Oswald enter the Texas Theater without paying. But is that supposed to be evidence of murder?

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6. Oswald saying "Well its over now" or words to that effect

McDonald was the only one in the building who claimed to hear anything like this.

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and pulling his handgun out when arrested?

Not even McDonald claimed this. It’s pure Nutter mythology.

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7.  Oswald admitting to Marina that he had fired a shot at General Walker with the MC

Marina didn’t say anything about “the MC”. And Marina said a lot of things. She also said Lee took a gun to go take a look at Nixon when Nixon wasn’t even in town.

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and leaving a the letter for her

You mean the unsigned, undated note in Russian that doesn’t mention Walker or shooting? What does this have to do with JFK anyway?

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, and having pictures of Gen. Walkers house...?

Really? He had them? Or were they found in the Paines’ garage?

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When we get that sorted out, try explaining
1. why Oswald's lunch required a long package placed in the back seat of Buell Frazier's car

The bag that was too short to contain the alleged murder weapon?

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2. why Oswald wanted him to believe it was curtain rods, ...

You don’t know what it contained.

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3. why Oswald's the paper package that contained "curtain rods" was found in the SN.

No, a paper bag that Frazier said was not the same bag was allegedly found in the “SN” but doesn’t appear in any crime scene photos.

How do any of these misrepresentations tell us who shot JFK?
« Last Edit: December 11, 2020, 06:01:30 AM by John Iacoletti »

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: 57 years: Does it matter how we remember 11-22-63?
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2020, 06:19:46 AM »
So what are the alternative, reasonable explanations for:

1. Oswald leaving the TSBD without telling anyone, including Roy Truly.
>>> He said he was just going to a movie so it must be true

2. Oswald willing to spend a significant portion of his daily wage on a taxi to get home quickly.
>>> He was having a torrid affair with Earlene

3. Oswald not remaining at his rooming house for more than a few minutes but getting his hand gun.
>>> His affair with Earlene was just at the 'touch & go' stage.

4. Oswald shooting Officer Tippitt.
>>> He was having a bad hair day

5. Oswald entering the Texas Theater without paying
>>> He needed the money to buy popcorn

6. Oswald saying "Well its over now" or words to that effect and pulling his handgun out when arrested?
>>> Re 'Well its over now: He was referring to the movie. And he was taking the gun out to show the cops how nifty it was: It's what boys do.

7.  Oswald admitting to Marina that he had fired a shot at General Walker with the MC and leaving a the letter for her, and having pictures of Gen. Walkers house...?
>>> He wrote the letter to get her to do more chores. He needed the BY photos and the Walker incident for his resumé

When we get that sorted out, try explaining
1. why Oswald's lunch required a long package placed in the back seat of Buell Frazier's car
>>> It was a broken-down Carcano-sized 34.8" sandwich

2. why Oswald wanted him to believe it was curtain rods[/b], ...
>>> He didn't want anyone to find out that he had an eating disorder

3. why Oswald's the paper package that contained "curtain rods" was found in the SN
>>> By that time it contained only bread crumbs, but not enough to confirm the type of bread.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2020, 12:45:39 AM by Bill Chapman »