57 years: Does it matter how we remember 11-22-63?

[Walt Cakebread]

The investigations into the Kennedy assassination were bungled badly enough that your statement applies both ways (the evidence against conspiracy and the evidence for conspiracy).


I don't think there's anything "we" can do to solve that problem.

What the government, the news media, and other institutions need to do is quit lying to us and perform better at their jobs when it comes to serving the Public.

The JFK assassination is one event, but there were many events that followed where the government and it's allies in the news media haven't told us the truth about certain matters.

What the government, the news media, and other institutions need to do is quit lying to us and perform better at their jobs when it comes to serving the Public.

Of the people and by the people and for the people

The intent of the second amendment..... The right to keep and bear arms was intended to to guarantee  that the people would have the means to insure that the leaders wouldn't lie to them and cheat them out money that had been taken as taxes to support the nation....

In the modern era.... Our leaders routinely lie to us and threat us as if we are addled brained children and  steal our taxes ......

[Bill Chapman]

No conspiracy required to do what Oswald did.

[Jon Banks]

No conspiracy required to do what Oswald did.

Allegedly did

[Charles Collins]

Your attitude is why most people will continue to distrust the government and other institutions.

My attitude is the reason? 



 What you apparently don’t realize is that I believed (for many years) that there just HAD to be a conspiracy. But after finding no credible evidence of one. And taking a fresh look at the case with an open mind, I no longer believe that. I do believe that Castro possibly knew ahead of time that something was going to be attempted. There is some questionable evidence of that. And his personality and history of violence make it possible for me to believe that he was more involved than just knowing about a likely attempt. But credible evidence for these ideas just hasn’t surfaced. So therefore I no longer believe that there HAD to be a conspiracy. The evidence that we have points to LHO as the lone assassin. And I am convinced that he was capable of this. But I am still open to any credible evidence of a conspiracy that might come to light.

[Jon Banks]

My attitude is the reason? 



 What you apparently don’t realize is that I believed (for many years) that there just HAD to be a conspiracy. But after finding no credible evidence of one. And taking a fresh look at the case with an open mind, I no longer believe that. I do believe that Castro possibly knew ahead of time that something was going to be attempted. There is some questionable evidence of that. And his personality and history of violence make it possible for me to believe that he was more involved than just knowing about a likely attempt. But credible evidence for these ideas just hasn’t surfaced. So therefore I no longer believe that there HAD to be a conspiracy. The evidence that we have points to LHO as the lone assassin. And I am convinced that he was capable of this. But I am still open to any credible evidence of a conspiracy that might come to light.

The smug dismissal of the facts that the investigations were sloppy, there were coverups, and the only named suspect was killed within 48 hours of JFK’s murder. It’s very reasonable to speculate that there is more to the story given those circumstances alone.

Those are also the reasons most people will never be satisfied with the Warren Report’s conclusion.

I find it plausible that Oswald acted alone but there are too many coincidences and flaws in the forensic evidence for me to dismiss the idea that there was a conspiracy.

Given the litany of problems with the case, I keep an open mind and welcome any new evidence that could sway me in one direction or the other...

[Charles Collins]

The investigations into the Kennedy assassination were bungled badly enough that your statement applies both ways (the evidence against conspiracy and the evidence for conspiracy).


I don't think there's anything "we" can do to solve that problem.

What the government, the news media, and other institutions need to do is quit lying to us and perform better at their jobs when it comes to serving the Public.

The JFK assassination is one event, but there were many events that followed where the government and it's allies in the news media haven't told us the truth about certain matters.

  don't think there's anything "we" can do to solve that problem.

That smug dismissal represents exactly what is wrong. Remember what JFK said: Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.” Whining isn’t going to solve anything. We are responsible for some of the issues simply because we allow it to happen and don’t do enough to inspire change for the better. There are avenues to take that will inspire some needed changes. And violent riots isn’t one of them. Neither is bitching without making a suggestion for changes. Ideas for changes for the better to be implemented are out there. We must encourage the good ideas and their implementation. If enough people do this the positive changes will happen.

[Jon Banks]

  don't think there's anything "we" can do to solve that problem.

That smug dismissal represents exactly what is wrong. Remember what JFK said: Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.” Whining isn’t going to solve anything. We are responsible for some of the issues simply because we allow it to happen and don’t do enough to inspire change for the better. There are avenues to take that will inspire some needed changes. And violent riots isn’t one of them. Neither is bitching without making a suggestion for changes. Ideas for changes for the better to be implemented are out there. We must encourage the good ideas and their implementation. If enough people do this the positive changes will happen.

I think you missed my point.

Sure, we can help by not spreading disinformation but ultimately, the government, the news media, the big banks, and other big institutions have to win back the public's trust on their own.

We as individuals cannot fix the reasons for distrust in our public institutions.

I'm 40 years old. I came of age around the time when the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq in order to start an unnecessary war. How does the US government and the American media restore the credibility that was lost due to the fallout from the Iraq war?