57 years: Does it matter how we remember 11-22-63?

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: 57 years: Does it matter how we remember 11-22-63?
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2020, 10:33:44 PM »
I think you missed my point.

Sure, we can help by not spreading disinformation but ultimately, the government, the news media, the big banks, and other big institutions have to win back the public's trust on their own.

We as individuals cannot fix the reasons for distrust in our public institutions.

I'm 40 years old. I came of age around the time when the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq in order to start an unnecessary war. How does the US government and the American media restore the credibility that was lost due to the fallout from the Iraq war?


We cannot change what has happened in the past. But we should try to learn from our mistakes and try to avoid repeating them. And we can contact our government representatives and let them know what we would like for them to do.

32 years ago I was part of a group of people who were being treated unfairly because of some nation-wide revisions to U.S. Army policy. We petitioned our congressmen and they responded with an amendment to the law that solved the issue.

Respect and credibility are earned by our deeds. Do the right things for the right reasons and the respect and credibility will be the byproduct.

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: 57 years: Does it matter how we remember 11-22-63?
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2020, 10:44:21 PM »

We cannot change what has happened in the past. But we should try to learn from our mistakes and try to avoid repeating them. And we can contact our government representatives and let them know what we would like for them to do.

32 years ago I was part of a group of people who were being treated unfairly because of some nation-wide revisions to U.S. Army policy. We petitioned our congressmen and they responded with an amendment to the law that solved the issue.

Respect and credibility are earned by our deeds. Do the right things for the right reasons and the respect and credibility will be the byproduct.


Government Accountability and Transparency are the only things that can restore the public's trust...

Online Charles Collins

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Re: 57 years: Does it matter how we remember 11-22-63?
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2020, 12:08:05 AM »

Government Accountability and Transparency are the only things that can restore the public's trust...

Then take action to insist on what you want. It isn’t going to happen if everyone just bitches about it and does nothing. If you believe something is wrong, make contact with someone who can help. Form a group of likeminded people and make some (peaceful) noise. That is how the process begins. Moaning and groaning about generalities doesn’t tell anyone specifically what it is that you want changes for.

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: 57 years: Does it matter how we remember 11-22-63?
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2020, 12:58:00 AM »
No conspiracy required to do what Oswald did.

Then why is there so much deception and so many falsehoods in the testimonies of the TSBD employees, particularly and tellingly, of those working on the sixth floor. It should have been so straight-forward, another day at the office, so to speak. Everyone shows up to work not knowing that one of them has murder on their mind, the shots ring out and people are questioned as to where they were and what they were doing at that time. Of course there will be minor discrepancies over some details, that's human nature, but what we see in these testimonies is a complex of misdirection and obfuscation. People are lying (IMHO) and to not ask why they are is unacceptable.

I agree, it takes just one man to take the shots but it takes more than one to create the labyrinth of confusion that follows.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: 57 years: Does it matter how we remember 11-22-63?
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2020, 02:17:59 AM »
The smug dismissal of the facts that the investigations were sloppy, there were coverups, and the only named suspect was killed within 48 hours of JFK’s murder. It’s very reasonable to speculate that there is more to the story given those circumstances alone.

Those are also the reasons most people will never be satisfied with the Warren Report’s conclusion.

I find it plausible that Oswald acted alone but there are too many coincidences and flaws in the forensic evidence for me to dismiss the idea that there was a conspiracy.

Given the litany of problems with the case, I keep an open mind and welcome any new evidence that could sway me in one direction or the other...

Jon, There IS evidence that proves that Lee Oswald was NOT the assassin nor did he murder J.D Tippit.....But only YOU, and you alone ,  can open your eyes.....

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: 57 years: Does it matter how we remember 11-22-63?
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2020, 03:53:01 AM »
Does it matter how Americans interpret the events that occurred on November 22, 1963?
Most accept what they see on the TV documentaries...highly conforming to the official rap. I saw this one program on a history type channel just last night claiming that Oswald's prints were all over 'HIS' rifle. So remove any doubt...the media and government will never lie to you

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: 57 years: Does it matter how we remember 11-22-63?
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2020, 07:49:14 AM »
"The One Thing All Americans Agree On: JFK Conspiracy"
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/jfk-assassination-files/one-thing-all-americans-agree-jfk-conspiracy-n815371

...a new survey from FiveThirtyEight released this week finds that’s right about where the public is today: 61% believe others were involved in JFK’s assassination, while 33% believe one man acted alone.

But the most interesting finding in the FiveThirtyEight poll is the breadth of the nation’s JFK conspiracy beliefs. More than 50 percent of most every demographic group believes “others were involved” in the assassination: Men and women, whites, blacks and Hispanics, registered voters and non-registered, all age groups.

And in an era when the political divides appear in everything from media consumption to shopping habits, the JFK assassination is one area where supporters of President Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton agree: 61 percent of Trump voters and 59 percent of Clinton voters believe “others were involved...”