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Online Andrew Mason

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1757 on: Today at 03:38:26 AM »
Projecting?

You choose to ignore 90+% of the witnesses who heard 3 shots and are corroborated by 3 spent shells in the sniper's nest.

And yet:

You choose to ignore 80% of the witnesses who reported a 3 shot pattern ie. those who put the last two closer together. And that 80% is corroborated by 100% of the witnesses who observed JFK’s reaction to the first shot and 100% of the witnesses whose evidence allows us to place the location of JFK at the time of the first shot ie. the time conflicts with an early first shot (before z186).


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« Reply #1758 on: Today at 06:05:48 AM »
And yet:

You choose to ignore 80% of the witnesses who reported a 3 shot pattern ie. those who put the last two closer together. And that 80% is corroborated by 100% of the witnesses who observed JFK’s reaction to the first shot and 100% of the witnesses whose evidence allows us to place the location of JFK at the time of the first shot ie. the time conflicts with an early first shot (before z186).

1) JFK's conscious reaction to the first, missing-everything, shot was too subtle for most people to notice. At Z-143, he quickly turned his head to his left and then turned his head to his right. Mary Woodward noticed it.

2) Why didn't everyone hear your beloved "shot pattern"? Funky acoustics?
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Online John Corbett

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1759 on: Today at 02:32:04 PM »
I'm assuming you're talking about the moment JFK is shot for the first time causing his fists to go up to his throat. The question is, if we assume there are three shots from the TSBD, which shot is this - first, second or third?
IMO the shot that caused JFK to raise his fists to his throat occurred at z223. The opening post of this thread is an assertion that no shot took place before z207. Less than one second after this (z223) Kennedy is hit. This leads me to conclude the first shot fired from the TSBD is the one that hits Kennedy in the throat. Quite a number of "ear-witnesses" describe a pattern to the shots - shot, pause, two shots closer together. If this is the case the second shot must be the head-shot with the third shot coming shortly after that.

When you start with a faulty premise, it's pretty much a given you will reach a faulty conclusion. There was a shot before Z207. It was a shot JBC clearly heard and instantly recognized as a gun shot. This happened several seconds before he was hit by the bullet that exited from JFK's throat. We can debate as to exactly when that first shot was fired because there is no definitive proof, but it is clear from watching JBC in the Z-film he is reacting to that shot just as he described. He was adamant until the day he died that he was hit by the second shot, not the first.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1760 on: Today at 02:58:11 PM »

2) Why didn't everyone hear your beloved "shot pattern"? Funky acoustics?
They all heard the shot pattern that occurred.

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