Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Rick Plant]

Gen. Milley's other 'nightmare scenario' revealed: Trump pushed Iran strike in desperate bid to retain power

Gen. Mark Milley's fears that former president Donald Trump would launch a Nazi-style "coup" to retain his grip on power have been widely reported in recent days.

But Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had also prepared for another "nightmare scenario" that could serve as Trump's so-called "Reichstag moment."

Trump desperately wanted to launch airstrikes against Iran, and in fact came "very close" to starting a war with the Middle East's second-largest country, according to a report from the New Yorker's Susan B. Glasser, who conducted more than 200 interviews for a book about the Trump presidency that will be published next year.

"This dangerous post-election period, Milley said, was all because of Trump's 'Hitler'-like embrace of the 'Big Lie' that the election had been stolen from him; Milley feared it was Trump's 'Reichstag moment,' in which, like Adolf Hitler in 1933, he would manufacture a crisis in order to swoop in and rescue the nation from it," Glasser reports.

"A running concern for Milley was the prospect of Trump pushing the nation into a military conflict with Iran. He saw this as a real threat, in part because of a meeting with the President in the early months of 2020, at which one of Trump's advisers raised the prospect of taking military action to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons if Trump were to lose the election," she writes. "At another meeting, at which Trump was not present, some of the President's foreign-policy advisers again pushed military action against Iran. Milley later said that, when he asked why they were so intent on attacking Iran, Vice-President Mike Pence replied, 'Because they are evil.'"

In the wake of the November election, Trump repeatedly raised the subject of Iran in White House meetings, as the president "kept pushing for a missile strike in response to various provocations against U.S. interests in the region," Glasser reports.

But Milley pushed back: "If you do this, you're gonna have a f*cking war," he reportedly told the president.

On Jan. 3, after Trump flew back from his Christmas vacation at Mar-a-Lago, he convened yet another meeting about Iran to ask his advisers "about recent reports from the International Atomic Energy Agency on Iran's nuclear activities."

But Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and national-security adviser, Robert O'Brien reportedly convinced Trump that it was "too late to hit them," because his presidency would soon end.

"After Milley walked through the potential costs and consequences, Trump agreed. And that was that: after months of anxiety and uncertainty, the Iran fight was over."

At this same meeting — which marks the last time Trump and Milley spoke — Trump reportedly asked his advisers if they were prepared for the upcoming "wild" rally by his supporters on Jan. 6.

"It's gonna be a big deal," Milley heard Trump say. "You're ready for that, right?"

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-iran-strike/



Former Trump official: GOP has become America's biggest 'national security threat'

In an interview with MSNBC's Jason Johnson, a former Department of Homeland Security official who served under former president Donald Trump claims that he believes the Republican Party has become a threat to the security of the country and warned what could happen if they reclaim the House and the Senate in the 2022 midterms.

According to Miles Taylor -- a Republican who served as chief of staff at the DHS until 2019 before leaving in disgust -- should the GOP take over the House, current House minority leader Kevin McCarthy will likely be Donald Trump's puppet if he is handed the gavel by his party.

"The number one national security threat I've ever seen in my life to this country's democracy is the party that I'm in, the Republican Party," Taylor warned. "If my party retakes the House of Representatives in the next cycle, it's going to become a haunted house. And the ghoul and the specter haunting that house is going to be Donald Trump."

Taylor also took a shot at McCarthy, reminding the senior Republican that the GOP lost the White House, the Senate and the House during Trump's four years.

Watch below:

[Rick Plant]

'We were just there to overthrow the government': Report shines light on Trump's 'most hardcore rallygoers'

Although former President Donald Trump was decisively voted out of office in 2020 and has been gone from the White House for almost six months, he continues to be the most influential figure in the Republican Party. Countless GOP politicians are afraid to publicly say a word against him, and his MAGA rallies still attract unquestioning, cult-like followers. Wall Street Journal reporter Michael C. Bender examines the type of MAGA devotees who faithfully attend those rallies in an excerpt from his book, "Frankly, We Did Win This Election: The Inside Story of How Trump Lost."

The Washington Post published an excerpt from the book this week, and in the excerpt, Bender discusses a "group of Trump's most hardcore rallygoers" known as the Front Row Joes.

Bender says of the Front Row Joes he has interviewed, "They were mostly older White men and women who lived paycheck to paycheck with plenty of time on their hands — retired or close to it, estranged from their families or otherwise without children — and Trump had, in a surprising way, made their lives richer. The president himself almost always spent the night in his own bed and kept few close friends. But his rallies gave the Joes a reason to travel the country, staying at one another's homes, sharing hotel rooms and carpooling."

One of the Front Row Joes that Bender interviewed was Saundra Kiczenski, a 56-year-old Michigan resident who traveled to Ohio for a MAGA rally in June. Discussing the January 6 insurrection — which she obviously views falsely as a peaceful protest — Kiczenski told Bender, "It's ridiculous those people are in prison for no reason. And it's a shame because if Donald Trump were still the president, they'd all be free."

Yet despite saying there was no reason the rioters should be in prison, she was open about the real motivation behind the event.

"We weren't there to steal things. We weren't there to do damage," she said. "We were just there to overthrow the government."

The COVID-19 pandemic, according to Bender, did not discourage Front Row Joes from traveling around the U.S. for MAGA rallies in 2020. The Joes, Bender observes, fully embrace "alternative facts" — whether it's the claim that COVID-19 isn't dangerous or the bogus claim that now-President Joe Biden stole the election.

"While most Americans only occasionally left their homes, the pandemic proved a blessing for Kiczenski's Trump travel plans," Bender explains. "She bought cheap airfare, repeatedly basked in the extravagance of an airplane aisle all to herself and logged more flights in 2020 than at any other point in her life. She attended 25 Trump rallies, boosting her total to 56. She spent 79 nights of the year away from her bed. Kiczenski traveled so often during the pandemic that a Delta flight attendant thanked her for being a Silver Medallion member and upgraded her to first class; she initially assumed it was a mistake."

Not surprisingly, Kiczenski buys into the Big Lie — continuing to believe the false, debunked claim that Trump was a victim of widespread voter fraud in 2020.

Kiczenski told Bender, "If someone put a gun to my head and said: 'Did Donald Trump win, yes or no? And if you're wrong, we're going to shoot your head off!' I would say yes. I'm that confident that this stuff is not made up."

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-rally-2653810637/


'Most terrified I've ever been': Reporter describes learning 'extremely alarming' details of Trump's final days

Reporter Susan Glasser on Friday told CNN's Jake Tapper that she felt personally unnerved while reporting out details of former President Donald Trump's final days.

While discussing her most recent article in the New Yorker about Trump's fights with General Mark Milley in the waning weeks of his administration, Glasser explained to Tapper that it was unprecedented for American military leaders to view the sitting commander-in-chief as a potential national security threat.

"You know, when I first learned about the level of alarm that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs had through the election and all the way into January, I have to say it was probably the most terrified I've ever been as a reporter in several decades," said Glasser, who has also reported from American wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

She said she was relieved to see that Milley and other top military commanders had done their best to hold Trump in check, but still found it frightening just how far the twice-impeached former president was willing to go.

"It was extremely alarming," she said. "On the one hand I suppose it's reassuring to understand that we have a class of generals at the very top rank who really do worship, I believe, the Constitution... but this is unprecedented stuff."

Watch the video below:

[Rick Plant]

Dr. Scott Gottlieb says U.S. is ‘vastly underestimating’ level of Covid delta spread

Dr. Scott Gottlieb told CNBC on Friday he believes the U.S. is significantly undercounting the number of Covid delta infections, making it difficult to know whether the highly transmissible strain is causing higher-than-expected hospitalization and death rates.

“We don’t know what the denominator is right now,” Gottlieb said in an interview on “Squawk Box.” “I think we’re vastly underestimating the level of delta spread right now because I think people who are vaccinated, who might develop some mild symptoms or might develop a breakthrough case, by and large are not going out and getting tested. If you’ve been vaccinated and you develop a mild cold right now, you don’t think you have Covid.”

Coronavirus cases in the U.S. have been rising due to the delta variant, with the seven-day average of new daily infections standing at 26,448, according to a CNBC analysis of Johns Hopkins University data. That’s up 67% from a week ago. The weekly average of new daily deaths is up 26% from a week ago, to 273, according to CNBC’s analysis.

“There’s no clear evidence that this is more pathogenic, that it’s causing more serious infections. It’s clearly more virulent, it’s clearly far more contagious” than earlier virus strains, said Gottlieb, who serves on the board of Covid vaccine maker Pfizer.

If younger Americans are becoming sick with the delta variant at higher levels compared with previous points in the pandemic, it’s because “younger people remain unvaccinated,” Gottlieb contended. “When people who are vaccinated do get infected, and there are breakthrough infections, they don’t get as sick. They have protection against severe disease.”

Delta is now the most-common coronavirus strain in the U.S., making up more than 57% of cases in the two weeks from June 20 to July 3. That’s the latest available window on the CDC’s website.

U.S. health officials have sounded the alarm for weeks about the variant’s potential to cut into hard-earned progress in reducing infection rates, which plummeted in the spring as America’s vaccination campaign hit its stride. As of Friday, 48.3% of the country’s population was fully vaccinated and nearly 56% had received at least one dose, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Covid vaccination coverage is higher among the most-vulnerable group of Americans: the elderly. More than 79% of people age 65 and up are fully vaccinated and nearly 89% have had at least one dose, according to the CDC.

The vast majority of U.S. counties with high infection rates right now — defined as at least 100 new cases over the last seven days per 100,000 residents — have vaccinated under 40% of their residents, according to a CNBC analysis completed earlier this week.

In Los Angeles County, officials on Thursday responded to an uptick in cases by reinstating an indoor mask mandate, even for fully vaccinated people. LA County, the nation’s most populous, had lifted its previous mask requirement about a month ago, in conjunction with the state of California ending most of its remaining pandemic restrictions.

Gottlieb said he does not expect many other state or local governments to follow LA County and begin putting in place already-lifted mitigation measures “because there’s not going to be a lot of support for mandates at this point.”

“People who are worried about Covid have largely been vaccinated. I realize not everyone has been able to get vaccinated, but most people have been vaccinated who are worried about this infection,” said Gottlieb, who led the FDA from 2017 to 2019 in the Trump administration.

“People who remain unvaccinated aren’t worried about the infection and don’t want to be wearing masks either. Now, the bottom line, that means this is just going to spread through the population,” he added.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/16/dr-scott-gottlieb-says-us-is-vastly-underestimating-level-of-covid-delta-spread.html


NIH director ‘most worried’ about Missouri’s COVID-19 spread compared to any state

Missouri is the spot on the map raising alarms for federal officials as the COVID-19 delta variant surges in the Midwest and South.

“When I look at the map Missouri actually jumps out as the place that I’m most worried about because there’s a lot of cases now happening very rapidly,” Dr. Francis Collins, the director of the National Institutes of Health, told McClatchy in an interview Thursday.

“This is a variant, this delta variant, that’s highly contagious. And so as it starts to spread, anybody who’s not vaccinated is in a danger zone… The chances of getting infected in Missouri are getting really high and that means potentially serious illness or even death,” said Collins, whose agency is the federal government’s primary medical research arm.

The Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services (DHSS) is now reporting an average of nearly 1,200 confirmed new cases each day, compared to fewer than 400 a month ago. The state is behind only Arkansas in its per-capita rate of new cases, according to data compiled by The New York Times.

At the same time, Missouri continues to struggle with low vaccination rates in many areas. It has the 13th worst vaccination rate among all states.

Rural Missouri, in particular, has lagged in vaccination rates, a trend that has also been persistent in other states. In Pulaski County, for example, only 14.3 % of people have received their first dose of the vaccine, according to state health data. CDC data shows that nearly 40% of residents have received at least one dose, however, likely because of vaccinations conducted at a military base in the county.

“I grew up on a farm and I appreciate people in rural counties tend to be pretty independent-minded and that’s good. And maybe therefore do have less access to medical care and less likely to depend on it, maybe a little more suspicious about messages coming from governments or from the big city,” said Collins, who was raised on a farm in rural Virginia.

“But boy this is the case where this virus doesn’t really care whether you’re in a rural community or city community. And people in rural communities in Missouri and elsewhere are now getting sick and large numbers.”

Southwest Missouri is the epicenter of the latest wave, and rising hospitalizations are pushing medical providers in Springfield to the breaking point. Local officials on Wednesday asked DHSS and the State Emergency Management Agency (SEMA) to fund an alternative care site as COVID patients begin to overwhelm the city’s two major hospitals, CoxHealth and Mercy.

The facilities are treating more virus patients than they did during Missouri’s previous pandemic peak this past winter. As of Thursday morning, CoxHealth had 139 COVID-positive patients and Mercy had 129. Mercy Springfield Chief Administrative Officer Erik Frederick tweeted that 16 virus patients at the hospital have died so far this week.

“We went from virtually zero patients to about 100-plus in about seven months in the first couple waves, and in this wave we went from, at least at Cox, about 14 patients seven weeks ago to about 130 today,” CoxHealth CEO Steve Edwards said at a Wednesday news conference. “So the ramp up time has been accelerated, almost triple.”

Late Wednesday, DHSS spokeswoman Lisa Cox said in an email that DHSS is working with SEMA and local officials “to determine how we will best meet the current health care needs of the community.”

COMBATING MYTHS

Collins pointed to myths about the vaccines that have circulated on social media as a driving factor in deterring people
from getting vaccinated.

“Some people were worried the vaccine might cause infertility. There’s been a lot of stuff on the internet about that,” Collins said. “There’s absolutely no evidence for that in men or in women. We now have tens of thousands of pregnant women who have been immunized and we have no indication that that’s causing any problem with the pregnancy.”

During Thursday’s White House briefing, Surgeon General Vivek Murthy said that online misinformation was costing lives and called for social media companies to enforce stronger content moderation standards to curb the spread of inaccurate claims about vaccines and the virus.

In an interview later in the day, Murthy pointed to Missouri as a state where President Joe Biden’s administration was steering resources to increase vaccinations and slow transmission rates.

“Arkansas, Missouri, Nevada and other states in the Midwest and the mountain region of our country are now struggling with a rising number of cases, rising number of hospitalizations,” Murthy told McClatchy.

"This is what delta will do. It will continue to spread. It’s the most transmissible version of COVID-19 that we have seen to date,” Murthy said. “But what we do know, and the good news is that, the vaccines work against the delta variant. So that’s why it’s so important that we get people vaccinated, especially in parts of our country where vaccination rates are still low.”

Collins said some people have avoided vaccinations because they already had COVID, but he said these people still need to get vaccinated, especially to protect against variants.

“The vaccine gives you even a better shot at avoiding getting reinfected with this delta variant. Simply having COVID before is not nearly as reliable as having COVID plus the vaccine,” Collins said.

Collins emphasized the spread in southern Missouri poses a threat to Kansas City and St. Louis as well.

“What we’ve seen in every other surge — and we’ve had way too many of them — is that the things that are nearby geographically are at highest risk and people move around and they bring the virus with them, so nobody in that general vicinity should feel as if this is just a problem for some people in the rural community,” Collins said.

"This is a problem for the whole area. This is a problem for the whole nation,” Collins said. “Basically, somebody once said, we had a division in the country between vaccinated and unvaccinated. Or maybe we have a division between people who are vaccinated and people who are sick, because that’s the direction we’re going.”

Missouri Republican Sen. Roy Blunt lamented Missouri’s low vaccination rate during a news conference Wednesday.

“We’re in a fight now, here and throughout the world frankly, where it’s sort of vaccine versus variant. The way you don’t have all these new strains is you don’t give the virus anywhere to live and become more resilient,” said Blunt, who comes from Springfield where the virus is surging.

Blunt’s strong exhortations to get vaccinated are in stark contrast to fellow Republican Missouri Gov. Mike Parson, who has offered a mixed message in recent weeks and panned the Biden administration’s vaccination outreach efforts.

White House press secretary Jen Psaki said Wednesday that she couldn’t make an assessment about why rural Missouri had fallen far behind the rest of the region in vaccination rates. But she called for elected officials to avoid polarizing the issue.

“We need to be clear and direct about our messaging. There is misinformation out there. Sometimes that’s traveling on platforms. Sometimes that’s traveling, unfortunately, out of the mouth of elected officials,” Psaki said Wednesday.

“So, it’s really case by case, but the most important thing we can do is not see this as a partisan issue because, certainly, the virus is killing people, whether they’re Democrats or Republicans.”

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article252806518.html

Missouri Covid-19 Hospitalizations Reach Levels Not Seen Since Winter
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/missouri-covid-19-hospitalizations-reach-levels-not-seen-since-winter/article_5b13ac28-fdd7-519f-baa5-f311f21f9434.html

New Florida COVID-19 cases nearly double over last week; positivity rate jumps
https://www.fox13news.com/news/new-florida-covid-19-cases-nearly-double-over-last-week-positivity-rate-jumps

After teen daughter hospitalized with Covid, mom regrets saying no to vaccine
"It's heartbreaking. I wish I would've made better choices for her," said an Arkansas mother of her 13-year-old daughter, hospitalized with Covid-19
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/after-teen-daughter-hospitalized-covid-mom-regrets-saying-no-vaccine-n1274227

[Jack Nessan]

These experts have been all over the board about the virus from the beginning which brings to mind the saying about the most feared words in the English language.

"I am from the US government and I am here to help you"

There are endless stories of people in everyone's community having huge problems with the vaccination. There seems to be a huge allergic reaction to it with the least being sick for a few days.

 A female of child bearing age would be a fool to get the shot. Maybe you have forgotten the "Morning Sickness Pill" of the 60's that affected the ability of the next generation to have children and the problems with the children after the birth. There is no way these companies have any idea of the real net effect of the shot. The shot should just be a personal choice knowing the risks. If someone feels safe, based from having been vaccinated, then there should not be any concern about having contact with someone who is not vaccinated. By the time the vaccine was available wasn't half the country already exposed to the virus?

Why is it there seems to be no credit given for someone who has had the Covid. That in itself seems very strange in this great push to give everyone a shot.

[Rick Plant]

Here's a woman who thought COVID-19 was 'just like the flu". Now why would she think that? It isn't like she just woke up one day and said "this virus isn't very serious it's just like the flu".

No, she had to have heard it from somewhere. Where did she hear it from? Yeah, you guessed it, the lying right wing media, especially Faux Propaganda that masquerades as a news network. This bogus network is just like North Korean state run media, except it's state run media for Criminal Donald and Qanon conspiracy theorists which also includes Russian media talking points.

All last year, we heard from the liars at Faux that COVID was "just like the flu" and there was "nothing to be worried about". Right wing hack Geraldo Rivera said "it is the plain old flu". We also had the rest of the network hacks attacking Democrats for wanting to get the virus under control from the beginning. They accused Democrats of "liberal panic" and trying to 'take away their freedoms" making it a political issue and angering their mentally challenged base.   

Right out of the gate, the corrupt lying Trump administration, the GOP, and the right wing media made this virus political. They turned their base against wearing masks, social distancing, washing their hands, and taking the virus seriously. They encouraged their followers to refuse to wear masks and treat the virus as a joke.

As a result, all the sheep that follow them treated COVID-19 as a joke which made this pandemic even worse. Their refusal to follow orders allowed the virus to spread nationwide and millions of them ended up getting sick and hundreds of thousands died.

Now the lying right wing media is on an anti vaccine campaign to kill more of their viewers as the sheep still swallow each and every lie. People are believing this anti vaccine disinformation and they are dying becuase of it. Now this woman has her young daughter on the verge of death because she listened to all the Faux Propaganda lies about the vaccine. Sadly, more right wingers will be in the same predicament as she is.

Another lie these right wingers spread was young people and children are "immune to the virus". That is totally bogus because children can always get sick from a virus just like this teenager did. And these right wing Faux hacks were screaming to open up all the schools during the worst part of the pandemic so more kids and families could get infected and the sheep viewers who watched parroted all their talking points. Yes, the right wing cult is a death cult, they have no regard for human life.

Make sure to watch the video below the article. It details all the lies these Faux hacks were spewing about COVID-19 teaching their viewers not to take the virus seriously and making it a political issue instead of the dangerous health disaster that it is.

If everybody was on the same page taking this virus seriously, working to defeat the pandemic by wearing masks, and getting vaccinated, the virus wouldn't have been so devastating and it would have been pretty much under control by now. Instead it's still killing people and starting to get worse again with a more deadly variant for the unvaccinated.

The only people to blame are these right wingers hellbent on keeping this virus around, especially Faux Propaganda that lies each and every single day.

They are the fake news media and their lies are killing their own viewers. All of those hacks on that channel should be personally sued for millions of dollars and the FCC needs to revoke their broadcasting license. Yes, they have the free speech to broadcast vile hateful anti American rhetroic, but they don't have the free speech to purposely spread disinformation and kill people. That is called murder and that's what they are doing to their own viewers.                                     
     

This mother thought COVID-19 was ‘was just like the flu’ – now her unvaccinated teenage daughter is struggling to survive

A vaccine-skeptical Arkansas mother is begging other parents not to make the same mistake as she.

Angela Morris decided against vaccinations for herself and her 13-year-old daughter because she doubted the severity of the coronavirus, but she's learning a hard lesson now that her child has been hospitalized with an infection, reported KTHV-TV.

"I just had a false sense of security that it was just like the flu and it wasn't that serious," Morris said. "Obviously, it is that serious and it was that serious -- now I can see."

Her daughter, Caia Morris Cooper, first experienced flu-like symptoms before the infection became worse, and the girl has spent 12 days in the hospital breathing with the help of a ventilator.

"We've had perfectly healthy children who end up in the hospital, in the ICU, with COVID-19 infection," said Dr. Jessica Snowden, chief of infectious diseases at Arkansas Children's Hospital. "So it is definitely something that could impact anyone."

The hospitalized children all have one thing in common, she said.

"All of the children we have admitted who are seriously sick with COVID-19 are either too young to get vaccinated, or haven't been vaccinated yet," Snowden said.

Morris hopes her experience encourages other skeptics to get themselves and their children vaccinated.

"It's very hard to see her in this situation," Morris said. "It's very hard not knowing if she's really going to come home anymore or not. It's heartbreaking. I wish I would've made better choices for her."

[Rick Plant]

These experts have been all over the board about the virus from the beginning which brings to mind the saying about the most feared words in the English language.

"I am from the US government and I am here to help you"

There are endless stories of people in everyone's community having huge problems with the vaccination. There seems to be a huge allergic reaction to it with the least being sick for a few days.

 A female of child bearing age would be a fool to get the shot. Maybe you have forgotten the "Morning Sickness Pill" of the 60's that affected the ability of the next generation to have children and the problems with the children after the birth. There is no way these companies have any idea of the real net effect of the shot. The shot should just be a personal choice knowing the risks. If someone feels safe, based from having been vaccinated, then there should not be any concern about having contact with someone who is not vaccinated. By the time the vaccine was available wasn't half the country already exposed to the virus?

Why is it there seems to be no credit given for someone who has had the Covid. That in itself seems very strange in this great push to give everyone a shot.

You must be connoisseur of right wing media. You're helping to spread vaccine disinformation with bogus right wing anti vaccine propaganda.   

The experts have not been "all over the board". They made it very clear from day one that people need to wear masks, social distance, wash your hands, and avoid large groups of people (especially indoors) until we had a vaccine. It was the criminal Trump Administration, GOP politicians, and the lying right wing media that's been "all over the board" spreading lies and purposeful disinformation since day one.       

Actually, it's very easy to get vaccinated. President Biden made it easy for ALL Americans to get vaccinated. All you have to do is walk inside your local pharmacy and you will get a shot. Most counties had vaccination sites open daily for people to get a shot. But a lot of them aren't in operation now since right wingers refuse to get vaccinated.

The CDC has always clearly indicated that some people will have mild side effects from the shot. Would you rather have the full and deadly side effects of COVID-19 dying in the ICU on a ventilator instead?

Millions of women have already been vaccinated that are of child bearing age and they barely had any side effects. Would you rather have millions of women of child bearing age die from COVID 19? Because unvaccinated women of child bearing age are dying from COVID-19 this very minute.     

People come into contact with strangers everyday and there is no way of knowing who is vaccinated or not which is why we have more new cases spreading in unvaccinated areas.

A vaccinated person can still get the virus but the side effects will be very mild. So, the vaccinated person can give the virus to the unmasked unvaccinated person that might end up killing them.

Just because a person already had COVID doesn't make them immune to getting it again. They need to get vaccinated so they don't end up getting the virus again and dying from it.

Until everyone gets vaccinated we will never be able to get COVID 19 under control. These unvaccinated morons will continue to spread COVID and we will keep having more outbreaks which will allow the virus to mutate into a more deadly variant. We already have that now with the Delta variant and scientists are worried that the Delta variant will mutate into an even more deadly variant where the vaccine won't have any effect on it.         

Most people that got COVID got it because they were careless and they don't deserve credit for that. They will get it again being unvaccinated and they may not survive it this time. Have you had COVID?     

Do some research on the vaccine since you are so misinformed and lay off the right wing media, they spread nothing but lies and are killing their own viewers. 

[Jack Nessan]

Some states choose to stop reporting COVID-19 "recoveries" because there was no uniform definition. But there are enough data sources to estimate the national recovery numbers.

The growing problem seems to be with "Long COVID" sufferers ( Link ), those "recovered" but who have symptoms like fatigue, loss of smell, etc.

    "In January 2021, a study in the UK reported that 30% of recovered
     patients were readmitted to hospital within 140 days, and 12% of
     the total died. Many patients had developed diabetes for the first
     time, as well as problems with heart, liver and kidney problems."

The new variants are stronger and affect the young more so than the original COVID-19.

"New Long-Haul COVID Clinics Treat Mysterious and Ongoing Symptoms", Scientific American, Jun30-2021 ( Link )

One seems to avoid the risk of "long-haul" COVID-19 symptoms by simply getting the vaccine:

    "While long COVID is observed after COVID-19 infection, it has not
     been reported after COVID-19 vaccination, with over 100,000 partici-
     pants included in vaccine trials as of December 2020." (Wikipedia)

But even those with full vaccination and the "fully-recovered" (if there is such a thing) can contact or harbor the disease and unwittingly spread it to the unvaccinated. That's why--if your area is experiencing a "hot spot" or increase in infections--it's a good idea to mask in public and unmask in a small "bubble". Patriotic even!

I could care less what the news media thinks, left or right. This disease has been around long enough for all of us to have personal knowledge of how it works and how it effects others. We all know people who have had terrible reactions to it and stories from medical friends about the vaccinations and the reoccurance of the disease.

I have had covid and my pregnant daughter and wife both had their sense of smell and taste impaired and their senses are still impaired. I know of people who basiclly isolated themselves only to have one contract the disease and the other did not. There are many stories of Families where some get the disease while others in the same household do not. The experts are learning as they go just like the rest of us. Masks are a great example of how the experts are all over the board. Another would be ventilators, originally the shut down was to be for 6 weeks to let them build ventiltors. Now to be put on a ventilator is considered a death sentence.

Most of us figured out a long time ago there had to be different variants around because of how severe some peoples reactions were compared to others. Most of us figured out like the flu there is no end to it. The vaccination has gone from being a six months immunity to it is good for ever but maybe it will take booster shots. Oh and it might be good for the Delta variant or maybe it will not. Nobody knows about all the other variants.

Now the same question. How can the vaccination be better than having actually had the disease and your body actually having fought off the disease? Over half the population was estimated to have been exposed. I would think having had the disease would be better than the vaccine.