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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2744 on: October 24, 2023, 12:53:25 PM »
And do you agree that in Towner, just behind Lady#2 (who we have already identified) and to her right (or left as we look at it) is a figure dressed in black with their arm raised?
I've clumsily tried to highlight this person in the pic below:



No. Lady #1 is comprehensively obscured from Towner's view by Lady #2

What you think is the raised right arm of Lady #1 is in fact the red shirt of the man in the doorway
« Last Edit: October 24, 2023, 12:55:29 PM by Alan Ford »

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2745 on: October 24, 2023, 01:51:21 PM »
No. Lady #1 is comprehensively obscured from Towner's view by Lady #2

What you think is the raised right arm of Lady #1 is in fact the red shirt of the man in the doorway

The body and raised arm are black, not red.
How can it be a red shirt if it's black?

LATER EDIT: Are you talking about the area I've marked as the hand of the figure in black?
« Last Edit: October 24, 2023, 01:56:24 PM by Dan O'meara »

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2746 on: October 24, 2023, 08:31:04 PM »
The body and raised arm are black, not red.

You're having another one of your hallucinations

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2747 on: October 24, 2023, 11:12:13 PM »
You're having another one of your hallucinations



Just behind the worker who has his arm across his chest is a figure in black with their arm raised,
In the Bell clip we see Lady#1, dressed in black with her arm raised waving something frantically, stood just behind and to the left (as we see it) of Lady#2
In Towner we see exactly the same thing.



You have clearly gone into denial, which is no big surprise.


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2748 on: October 25, 2023, 07:31:15 AM »

Just behind the worker who has his arm across his chest is a figure in black with their arm raised,
In the Bell clip we see Lady#1, dressed in black with her arm raised waving something frantically, stood just behind and to the left (as we see it) of Lady#2
In Towner we see exactly the same thing.

~Yawn~

We see something completely different in Towner.

Bell: the fluttering from Lady#1's hand is clearly NOT, at ANY point, far west enough to go BEHIND the man in khaki's HEAD
Towner: what you are identifying as the fluttering from Lady#1's hand DOES go right behind the man in khaki's HEAD

Look at the paused frame here:



If Bell, in these SYNCED Bell-Towner frames, showed the fluttering from Lady#1's hand go far west enough as to be BEHIND the man in khaki's HEAD, then your claim would be worth considering seriously.
But Bell doesn't show anything like that, making your claim no more than a desperate attempt to gaslight.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2023, 07:48:53 AM by Alan Ford »

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2749 on: October 25, 2023, 10:47:30 AM »
~Yawn~

We see something completely different in Towner.

Bell: the fluttering from Lady#1's hand is clearly NOT, at ANY point, far west enough to go BEHIND the man in khaki's HEAD
Towner: what you are identifying as the fluttering from Lady#1's hand DOES go right behind the man in khaki's HEAD

Look at the paused frame here:



If Bell, in these SYNCED Bell-Towner frames, showed the fluttering from Lady#1's hand go far west enough as to be BEHIND the man in khaki's HEAD, then your claim would be worth considering seriously.
But Bell doesn't show anything like that, making your claim no more than a desperate attempt to gaslight.

We've been here before, when you were in your Prayer Man 'zone'.
I've demonstrated, beyond doubt, that in both Towner and Bell there is a figure dressed in black, with a raised arm, behind and to the left (as we look at it) of Lady#2.
You haven't dealt with a single argument I've put forward.
Instead you've tried to insist that the raised, black arm in Towner is actually a red shirt [ ???]
You've insisted that Lady#1 is "comprehensively obscured" behind Lady#2. You've not offered a supporting argument for this and no evidence to support it. You've just blurted it out and, as I know from past experience, you will stick to it as a "fact".
But if Lady#1 is comprehensively obscured behind Lady#2 then Danny Arce should be comprehensively obscured behind White Stetson man. But he isn't. Like Lady#2 he is clearly visible behind the person in front.
And, even if Lady#2 were comprehensively obscured behind Lady#1, her raised arm should still be visible - don't you agree?

But she isn't comprehensively obscured.
She is partially obscured.
And now we have you simply showing Bell and Towner and stamping your little foot down and insisting it can't be so. Simply because you say so.
But I say look again.
See that in Towner the raised arm of Lady#2 is almost touching the shoulder of Khaki Man but in Bell there is a much larger gap between them.
That is the clue that will help you understand what's going on.



« Last Edit: October 25, 2023, 10:50:17 AM by Dan O'meara »

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2750 on: October 25, 2023, 01:32:53 PM »
I've demonstrated, beyond doubt, that in both Towner and Bell there is a figure dressed in black, with a raised arm, behind and to the left (as we look at it) of Lady#2.

No, that's demonstrated only for Bell

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You haven't dealt with a single argument I've put forward.
Instead you've tried to insist that the raised, black arm in Towner is actually a red shirt [ ???]
You've insisted that Lady#1 is "comprehensively obscured" behind Lady#2. You've not offered a supporting argument for this and no evidence to support it. You've just blurted it out and, as I know from past experience, you will stick to it as a "fact".
But if Lady#1 is comprehensively obscured behind Lady#2 then Danny Arce should be comprehensively obscured behind White Stetson man. But he isn't. Like Lady#2 he is clearly visible behind the person in front.
And, even if Lady#2 were comprehensively obscured behind Lady#1, her raised arm should still be visible - don't you agree?

But she isn't comprehensively obscured.
She is partially obscured.
And now we have you simply showing Bell and Towner and stamping your little foot down and insisting it can't be so. Simply because you say so.
But I say look again.
See that in Towner the raised arm of Lady#2 is almost touching the shoulder of Khaki Man but in Bell there is a much larger gap between them.
That is the clue that will help you understand what's going on.

You're still lost.

Try shocking your brain out of its latest hallucination by noting that Mr. Danny Arce is further south than the lady in blue, who is in turn further south than Lady#1 (the lady in black)



Then ask yourself: How will this disposition of figures present itself to Miss Towner's camera?