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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2576 on: September 27, 2023, 09:37:26 PM »
Hi Everybody, And please notice that a lady dressed in black is obscuring Lee from at least the waist down.

Optical illusion caused by shadows & what Mrs. Reese is holding in her right hand:

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Pauline and Sarah are on the East side of the steps.

As pointed out before, your 'Pauline' is an optical illusion:



'She's' either a Jack-In-The-Box, or 'her' tiny 'face' is a film artefact, with 'her' 'hairline' a horizontal glitch that appears in only ONE frame:



And note that 'her' 'skin' is too dark compared to the skin of real people in the sunlight. Explanation: this 'face' is just the same background we see in all the other frames where 'she' doesn't appear.

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There is absolutely no reason why Mrs. Sanders couldn't have moved across the landing (if she was indeed where she recalled having been) between the shooting and now.
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Offline Chris Davidson

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2577 on: September 27, 2023, 09:46:57 PM »
Exactly.  The "scoop neckline" may be a fraud.  Either way, it looks nothing like Sarah Stanton.
Robin supplied the frames from the Blue-Ray version of "JFK" the movie.
Here are consecutive frames from the non blue-ray version.
Note the morphing shoulder/neck area on PrayerPerson and the hair area of Frazier.
The reason I use the phrase "it looks like".


Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2578 on: September 27, 2023, 09:57:48 PM »
Robin supplied the frames from the Blue-Ray version of "JFK" the movie.
Here are consecutive frames from the non blue-ray version.
Note the morphing shoulder/neck area on PrayerPerson and the hair area of Frazier.
The reason I use the phrase "it looks like".


Hi Chris and Alan, And notice the solid ankle [around the fourth or fifth step] of the lady wearing the black dress. Alan your Bag Woman has the same defective ankles! Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael




Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2579 on: September 27, 2023, 09:59:38 PM »
Robin supplied the frames from the Blue-Ray version of "JFK" the movie.
Here are consecutive frames from the non blue-ray version.
Note the morphing shoulder/neck area on PrayerPerson


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2580 on: September 27, 2023, 10:00:06 PM »
Hi Chris and Alan, And notice the solid ankle [around the fourth or fifth step] of the lady wearing the black dress

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Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2581 on: September 27, 2023, 10:18:01 PM »


Hi Alan, That is Lee's ID bracelet and Marine Corps ring reflecting in the sun. Directly opposite on the East side we have Sarah Stanton then Avery Davis; above Avery Davis is Pauline Sanders. The girls stayed together. Also notice there is a lady opening the door to go in! Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael
« Last Edit: September 27, 2023, 10:25:06 PM by Michael Welch »

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2582 on: September 28, 2023, 09:13:07 AM »
Mr. Greg Doudna writes:

'Is it certain there is a Prayer Man in the Weigman film at all?
Serious question.
I see a spot of light in Prayer Man's position in Weigman, which could correspond to the spot of light at the viewer's right [east] of Prayer Man visible in Darnell, but is that particular spot of light connected to or part of Prayer Man at all, in either photo? Or is that spot of light something from inside the building showing through the glass front separating the front landing from the inside of the doorway, unrelated to the presence of Prayer Man? And there is no Prayer Man in Weigman?
Is it excluded that Prayer Man could have first arrived in the position seen in the Darnell film some seconds after the Z313 head shot? And Darnell is the only film evidence of Prayer Man?
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Mr. Doudna is both very right and very wrong.

He's very wrong to suggest that there is no Prayer Man in Wiegman. There clearly is a person there.
He's also wrong to keep warming his hands by the snuffed-out flame of PM-in-Darnell=LHO.

However!

He's very right to query the assumption that Prayer Man in Wiegman must be the same person as Prayer Man in Darnell. For some time now I myself have been querying this assumption, which I suspect has caused no end of confusion.



PM/Darnell is on the landing; PM/Wiegman is down at least one step.
Their bodies are oriented differently (compare the position of the left elbows).

Now of course, it's perfectly possible for PM/Wiegman to change position by the time of Darnell (~25 secs later), stepping up on to the landing to become PM/Darnell.
But it's far from a given that this is what happened.
And it's no less possible for someone OTHER than PM/Wiegman to change position by the time of Darnell, for instance moving across the landing to become PM/Darnell.
I believe the latter is just what happened, and that PM/Darnell is dark-haired Mrs. Pauline Sanders. Why, she may even be wearing the selfsame red garment we see in this post-assassination photo:



As for PM/Wiegman, I believe he may be

EITHER
Mr. Oswald, standing just where we saw him standing seconds before this in Hughes, only now he's had a fake shadow placed over him:



OR
Mr. Bill Shelley, lighting a cigarette------------



------------Mr. Oswald having already left the steps to pull his pro-Castro banner stunt.

In short, I believe that PM/Wiegman is of infinitely more interest to the case than PM/Darnell

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