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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2394 on: June 11, 2023, 04:35:47 PM »
Ca. 30 secs later, and Darnell gives us a glimpse of Mr. Lovelady's flag, whose staff he still holds in his left hand:



Mr. Oswald is no longer on the steps. He has returned his flag to the paper bag, which he has dumped out by the mailboxes-----------------thereby arousing the suspicions of a certain woman-----------------who in turn attracts the attention of Officer Baker:




Where is Mr. Oswald now? Perhaps he is the reason why the front door is moving in Darnell. And perhaps he is seconds away from being confronted by Officer Baker (who has his description from the woman holding the bag) in the front-of-building small storage room:



Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2395 on: June 11, 2023, 04:40:40 PM »
No wonder Mr. Lovelady had to tell so many lies afterwards! He had been on the same team as Mr. Oswald-------which (as far as they had been given to understand) was Team Kennedy.

Pres. Kennedy was told to watch out for flags being waved in the Depository doorway by two guys in red shirts. This would tell him that all was in place on the sixth floor. At his signal (a brush of the hand across the hair), the staged false-flag provocation would proceed as planned.

Little did Messrs. Kennedy, Lovelady or Oswald know that the off-books staged incident had been infiltrated and turned into a lethal ambush.

There is a lot of tragedy packed into these frames:


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2396 on: June 11, 2023, 04:45:41 PM »
This is the moment poor Mr. Lovelady discovers he's been horribly duped:



Mr. Oswald may not even know yet that Pres. Kennedy was actually hit
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Online Sean Kneringer

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2397 on: June 11, 2023, 06:46:41 PM »
Are there any other unidentified witnesses of note besides Babushka Lady and Dark Complected Man?

Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2398 on: June 12, 2023, 04:24:11 AM »
If Oswald discarded the flag in the bag and continued walking EASTward then that would place him about the Houston/Elm intersection where the man is in the M film that seems to have approx same build and hair as Oswald .

But would not this make the ENTIRE Baker meeting Oswald scenario a total

Buell W. Frazier has stated he saw Oswald in this area of Houston and Elm st before Frazier went back into the TSBD, so how does Oswald ever meet the reporter Pierce Allman if Oswald had already departed the steps to discard his flag/bag?

Should we question Allmans credibility?


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2399 on: June 14, 2023, 02:33:39 PM »
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2400 on: June 16, 2023, 04:32:21 PM »
No wonder Mr. Lovelady had to tell so many lies afterwards! He had been on the same team as Mr. Oswald-------which (as far as they had been given to understand) was Team Kennedy.

Pres. Kennedy was told to watch out for flags being waved in the Depository doorway by two guys in red shirts.

Thus!

1. Mr. Oswald did indeed bring curtain rods to work that morning: one for himself, another for Mr. Lovelady, to attach their flags to
2. Mr. Oswald, in custody, denied the curtain rods because they were a telltale element in what had really happened
3. At some point after the assassination, the two curtain rods were found in the Depository and tested for Mr. Oswald's fingerprints. Result: negative. It may be, however, that the one legible print was actually that of Mr. Lovelady. A dangerous set of prints to have on record....
4. So a DIFFERENT 'legible print' had to be 'found' and recorded on two curtain rods----------hence (at least in part) the ridiculous shenanigans in the Paine garage, where two curtain rods were 'discovered' and 'received' on-the-record by the WC; hence also the shenanigans with the two different versions of the crime lab form. They made sure that a non-dangerous legible print would be the one that went into the official record



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