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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2056 on: February 15, 2023, 02:38:55 PM »
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Mr. Lovelady cannot be seen in Hughes, as he is blocked from view by the girl on the pedestal. However, Hughes does show a figure in blue standing way back in the entranceway.




When we crosscheck this with Mr. Lovelady as seen from Bell's POV a couple seconds later, we see just what we'd expect to see behind and just to Mr. Lovelady's right (=our left): some blue---------------




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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2057 on: February 15, 2023, 03:04:24 PM »
So!

Two key things that for nearly six decades prevented Mr. Oswald's alibi from being firmly established:

1. The fact that Mr. Oswald's own claim to have gone "outside to watch P. Parade" was suppressed and not known to researchers (until 2019!):



2. The fact that both men on the left here-----------------Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald and Mr. Roy Edward Lewis------------------were all along mistakenly identified as Mr. Billy Nolan Lovelady and Mr. Carl Edward Jones:



Given that Mr. Oswald, standing in the entranceway with a Coke bottle in his hand, is rather unlikely to have shot Pres. Kennedy, the only meaningful LHO question now becomes:

Was Mr. Oswald knowingly involved in the assassination plot?

Decent and honest researchers can disagree on that question.

As for the Warren Gullibles, they have spent years of their lives chasing Mr. Oswald's ghost up on six-------------------



Imagine wasting all that time and energy defending a hoax! Truly, Oswald Derangement Syndrome is a pitiable condition..............

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2058 on: February 15, 2023, 03:12:06 PM »

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2059 on: February 15, 2023, 04:04:15 PM »
So!

Two key things that for nearly six decades prevented Mr. Oswald's alibi from being firmly established:

1. The fact that Mr. Oswald's own claim to have gone "outside to watch P. Parade" was suppressed and not known to researchers (until 2019!):



2. The fact that both men on the left here-----------------Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald and Mr. Roy Edward Lewis------------------were all along mistakenly identified as Mr. Billy Nolan Lovelady and Mr. Carl Edward Jones:



Given that Mr. Oswald, standing in the entranceway with a Coke bottle in his hand, is rather unlikely to have shot Pres. Kennedy, the only meaningful LHO question now becomes:

Was Mr. Oswald knowingly involved in the assassination plot?

Decent and honest researchers can disagree on that question.

As for the Warren Gullibles, they have spent years of their lives chasing Mr. Oswald's ghost up on six-------------------



Imagine wasting all that time and energy defending a hoax! Truly, Oswald Derangement Syndrome is a pitiable condition..............

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Oswald himself admitted to being in the building.  We don't even have to play the contrarian defense attorney game on that one (i.e. how do we know the DPD wasn't lying about what he said?) because he answered the question on camera in response to a question from the press.  Only someone touched in the head can believe they can make heads or tails of those fuzzy pictures.  And none of Oswald's co-workers ever indicated that he was on the street with them.  This is tin foil Bigfoot nonsense.
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2060 on: February 15, 2023, 04:15:44 PM »
Oswald himself admitting to being in the building.  We don't even have to play the contrarian defense attorney game on that one (i.e. how do we know the DPD wasn't lying about what he said?) because he answered the question on camera in response to a question from the press.  Only someone touched in the head can believe they can make heads or tails of those fuzzy pictures.  And none of Oswald's co-workers ever indicated that he was on the street with them.  This is tin foil Bigfoot nonsense.

Oswald himself admitting to being in the building.

I know that Oswald said to reporters he worked in the building, but where and when exactly did he say he was in the building at the time of the shooting?

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« Reply #2061 on: February 15, 2023, 04:24:58 PM »
Oswald himself admitting to being in the building.

I know that Oswald said to reporters he worked in the building, but where and when exactly did he say he was in the building at the time of the shooting?

He was specifically asked if he was in the building at the time of the shooting.


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« Reply #2062 on: February 15, 2023, 05:04:10 PM »
He was specifically asked if he was in the building at the time of the shooting.


No he wasn't.

Oswald: I work in that building
Reporter: Were you in the building at the time
Oswald: Naturally, if I work in that building, yes sir

What else was he going to say?

It doesn't get anymore vague than this, yet to Richard it's an admission that he was in the building during the shooting. Hilarious!

To more reasonable people it's obvious that Oswald simply confirmed that he worked at the TSBD and that he was there when the shooting took place.
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2063 on: February 15, 2023, 06:13:34 PM »
Ok, I’m on board with Mr.Fords latest scenario with exception of conspirators pasting image of Jones over Lewis to hide the bottle , which it does not really do imo.

Im not sure they did anything to the Cronkite version because at that point in time they probably were not yet aware of the significance of the bottle in the hand. It may be the Cronkite news show display that case guy someone’s attention.

It’s definitely a different picture later as the arm is covered up with texture pattern of Lovelady and the bottle had disappeared , nothing but Lovelady white shirt in full.

I think the main selling point here is the impossibility of the red blotches in Hughes all belonging to just one person because how far apart they are.

There’s only 2 possibilities to explain the red blotches in Hughes so far apart.

1. There were 2 persons wearing reddish shirts in proximity to each other

2. There was only 1 person with reddish shirt and the anomaly is caused by motion blur or some other phenomenon caused by the camera itself.

If 1 is the reason, then what other person out there would have a reddish shirt that would register approx same red tone and also what person would be in proximity to Lovelady so as to be captured in the Hughes (thru the tree foliage)?

Since I’m no expert on cameras of this 1963 era and if they had motion blur effects , some one else may be able to offer some more detailed explanation for no.2

Also, it would be nice if some kind of high tech computer imaging analysis program can determine the probability of the reddish shirt to be Loveladys plaid red shirt with black squares or if the shirt is more probable to be solid reddish texture like Oswald’s shirt.