Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Chris Davidson]

Alan,

It's impossible to tell what the time elapse would be.
Why?
If you use the Bell/Towner sync and plot it, their LOS intersect creates a wider turn radius than most believed to have occurred.
Truly described it and that was at least one reason for the Towner splice. imo
Another would probably be, as you have long suspected, the action upon the TSBD steps so clearly in view from Towner's position.
With that said and the splice time/wider radius being discounted, it would have been a distance of approx 25ft traveled at an 8.6mph average speed = 25/12.64ft persec = 2 seconds.

Mr. TRULY. That is right.
And the President's car following close behind came along at an average speed of 10 or 15 miles an hour. It wasn't that much, because they were getting ready to turn. And the driver of the Presidential car swung out too far to the right, and he came almost within an inch of running into this little abutment here, between Elm and the Parkway. And he slowed down perceptibly and pulled back to the left to get over into the middle lane of the parkway. Not being familiar with the street, he came too far out this way when he made his turn.

Mr. BELIN. He came too far to the north before he made his curve, and as he curved--as he made his left turn from Houston onto the street leading to the expressway, he almost hit this north curb? 

Mr. TRULY. That is right. Just before he got to it, he had to almost stop, to pull over to the left.
If he had maintained his speed, he would probably have hit this little section here.

Mr. BELIN. All right.


[Alan Ford]

Alan,

It's impossible to tell what the time elapse would be.
Why?
If you use the Bell/Towner sync and plot it, their LOS intersect creates a wider turn radius than most believed to have occurred.
Truly described it and that was at least one reason for the Towner splice. imo
Another would probably be, as you have long suspected, the action upon the TSBD steps so clearly in view from Towner's position.
With that said and the splice time/wider radius being discounted, it would have been a distance of approx 25ft traveled at an 8.6mph average speed = 25/12.64ft persec = 2 seconds.

Mr. TRULY. That is right.
And the President's car following close behind came along at an average speed of 10 or 15 miles an hour. It wasn't that much, because they were getting ready to turn. And the driver of the Presidential car swung out too far to the right, and he came almost within an inch of running into this little abutment here, between Elm and the Parkway. And he slowed down perceptibly and pulled back to the left to get over into the middle lane of the parkway. Not being familiar with the street, he came too far out this way when he made his turn.

Mr. BELIN. He came too far to the north before he made his curve, and as he curved--as he made his left turn from Houston onto the street leading to the expressway, he almost hit this north curb? 

Mr. TRULY. That is right. Just before he got to it, he had to almost stop, to pull over to the left.
If he had maintained his speed, he would probably have hit this little section here.

Mr. BELIN. All right.


Thank you very much for this informative response, Mr. Davidson------------much appreciated! 

[Alan Ford]

Friends, since 2019 this case has come down to two major rival claims:
1. LHO was on 6 firing shots (official theory)
2. LHO went outside to watch the P. Parade (his own suppressed claim in custody).

Unless someone can show us a way for the red-shirted man in Hughes--------------

--------------to be SOLELY responsible for what we're seeing in Bell---------------

----------------then we have proof of TWO red-shirted men in the west half of that doorway as Pres. Kennedy passed by.

Mr. Oswald's claim is looking awfully strong.

So! Who wants to go first at trying to salvage the claim that this is Mr. Billy Lovelady?:



 

[Chris Davidson]

Thank you very much for this informative response, Mr. Davidson------------much appreciated! 

Here is a link to what I did post previously. If you scroll down just a bit you can read the brief responses we had.
Sorry I mis-spoke about the prior collage being posted, as I truly thought that was the one.
Anyhow, keep up the excellent work.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3524.msg135170.html#msg135170

[Chris Davidson]

Took the two clearest frames and enlarged them.
Doing this, it could be the tree foliage/camera movement is creating the appearance of two different bodies.
?

[Alan Ford]

Here is a link to what I did post previously. If you scroll down just a bit you can read the brief responses we had.
Sorry I mis-spoke about the prior collage being posted, as I truly thought that was the one.
Anyhow, keep up the excellent work.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3524.msg135170.html#msg135170

Many thanks, Mr. Davidson-------------------------I had completely forgotten this exchange, as the full potential significance of your suggestion just didn't register with me at the time! Your identification of the Lovelady arm turns what was an amorphous plaid blob into a fragment we can make some physiognomical sense of. Brilliant work! 

[Alan Ford]

Took the two clearest frames and enlarged them.
Doing this, it could be the tree foliage/camera movement is creating the appearance of two different bodies.
?

Yes, I'm not convinced (at least not yet) that we are necessarily seeing two different shirts in Bell.

The key point IMO is the fact that we are seeing an unbroken horizontal stretch of red in Bell.

The disposition of that part of the red shirt of our man in Hughes not blocked by Mr. Carl Edward Jones
--------------(red [right shoulder]-white[tshirt]-red[left shoulder])--------------
simply does not allow for what we're seeing in Bell
--------------(red-red-red)----------------.
And Bell's vantage point would yield MORE blockage of our man in red by Mr. Jones!



Now! Someone might suggest: 'Maybe Carl Edward Jones lowered his body momentarily, thus making visible to Bell the buttoned lower part of Lovelady's shirt?'
Nope. Towner rules that out: it can be synced to the Bell frames, and it shows Mr. Jones still standing upright as he was doing in Hughes, still blocking our man in red just like he was doing in Hughes.

I cannot, in short, see a logical way for our man in red in Hughes to be Mr. Lovelady.