Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[John Iacoletti]

When did Buell Frazier state that a partly-eaten cheese sandwich and apple were seen on the 2nd Floor Lunch Room table after the assassination?

[Alan Ford]

REFUTED:
--------------AltgensDoorwayman = LHO
--------------PM-in-Darnell = LHO
--------------PM-in-Darnell = Mrs. Sarah Stanton

UNREFUTED:
--------------Mr. Oswald in interrogation said he "went outside to watch P. Parade"
--------------Mr. Oswald's claim to have gone "outside to watch P. Parade" was buried in the official interrogation reports
--------------There is an impossible shadow down Mr. Lovelady's side in Wiegman
--------------The Towner film shows least one flag being waved from the lower west side of the doorway as Pres. Kennedy passes
--------------The Hughes film shows Mr. Oswald in the doorway, wearing the reddish shirt later tagged as CE151, and drinking from a bottle:

--------------Later frames in the Hughes film show Mr. Bill Shelley walking away from the scene (going south across the Main-Houston intersection), carrying something(s)
--------------The paper sack which Mr. Oswald will later be accused of having brought the rifle to work in makes its first appearance in Darnell:

--------------Darnell also shows Officer Marion Baker beating a path for the woman who is holding this sack up:


 

[Alan Ford]

Mr. Sandy Larsen really did wonderful work with this gif:



Look at Officer Baker in the first frames, and you'll assume he's heading straight for the doorway. But then the actual doorway comes into view. It's quite a jolt.

He's not heading for the doorway at all. Nor is the running woman just a little north-east of him heading for the doorway. They are both heading straight for this woman and what she is holding up:



Her reaction to the assassination has been to go over to the mailboxes and pick up a paper sack. She must have just seen something that disturbed her enough to make her do this--------------and to draw attention

[Zeon Mason]

I’ve seen no statement from Buell W. Frazier that specifically identifies PM figure as Sarah Stanton.

If BW Frazier would like to post on this forum that he is certain that the PM figure is Sarah Stanton, then that would be great.

[Frederick Clements]

Stanton seems far too chubby to be PM.

Fred

[Alan Ford]

~Sigh~

The issue of Mrs. Stanton's location was resolved many moons ago:

After the assassination, Mr Lovelady found himself having to look again and again at the Altgens photograph (because of erroneous claims that the 'man in the doorway' was Mr Oswald rather than himself). His memory of relative positions at the time of the shooting was thus set in stone by that image. He confidently pointed out to Mr Dom Bonafede a lady shielding her eyes in that photograph, a lady who he said worked on the second floor. His recognition of this lady in the photograph, who is the person he sees standing next to him to his east, explains why he mentions her in his testimony:

Mr. BALL - Who was with you?
Mr. LOVELADY - Bill Shelley and Sarah Stanton, and right behind me
Mr. BALL - What was that last name?
Mr. LOVELADY - Stanton.

Had Mr Ball not (nervously!) interrupted Mr Lovelady here, he would have named the person "right behind" him as Mr Joe Molina, who indeed appears to be 'right behind' him in Altgens.



 

As for Mr. Shelley, he told FBI he was OUT OF SHOT in the Altgens photograph:



He was: he was standing to Mr. Lovelady's right (i.e. he was just west of Mr. Lovelady).

Thus we have Mr. Lovelady, with Ms. Stanton next to him on one side and Mr. Shelley next to him on the other. Just like he said.

But what he left out was a rather important fact:

Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald was in that doorway too.

Just like (as we have known since 2019) he claimed in his first interrogation:



Here he is in Hughes, taking a drink from his Coke bottle:



The LHO=AltgensDoorwayMan! folks were nearly right; the LHO=PM-in-Darnell!! folks were nearly right. Mr. Oswald was in the very near vicinity.

Since PrayerMan-in-Darnell turned out to be PrayerWoman, the identification of PrayerWoman-in-Darnell has been a trivial pursuit. I think she's Mrs. Pauline Sanders---------------



----------------but it makes no appreciable difference to anything if she happens to be some other lady (other than Mrs. Stanton--------a candidate ruled out ages ago by all but the chronically blind and/or demented) who made her way to that spot in the seconds following the shooting.

 

[Alan Ford]

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