Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2429 on: July 11, 2023, 08:43:28 AM »
Not too many red-headed men in Dealey Plaza. And not too many folks walking with purpose away from the scene. I think the probability that this is Mr. Shelley is strong.

If it's him, then we can start with his same-day affidavit:



All true, except he's left out a little southwards excursion he took beyond the hot zone in order to dispose of whatever it is we see him carrying in Hughes.

I think this is Mr. Shelley just after the shooting, carrying something(s) away from the scene:



And I think he--------and NOT Ms. Pauline Sanders----------is the person standing on the landing behind Mr. Oswald in these earlier Hughes frames:



We are seeing his head just over and behind Mr. Oswald, and we are seeing his jacket and head reflected in the glass.

If so, then Ms. Sanders only moved over to the west side of the landing in the seconds after the shooting.

This would mean that the ONLY people who would have had the flag-waving of Messrs. Oswald and Lovelady in their sight-line were
--Mr. Bill Shelley
--Mr. Buell Wesley Frazier

Everyone else's eyes were fixed on the motorcade
« Last Edit: July 11, 2023, 08:46:21 AM by Alan Ford »

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2430 on: July 11, 2023, 10:39:09 PM »
Several people have viewed the 6FM copy of Darnell. To my knowledge, not a single one has come back with the declaration 'Yep, looks like Oswald!' Now why do you think that might be?

Only two that I know of, and neither said “looks just like Pauline Sanders”. Or even “looks like a woman”. You’re way overthinking this neckline thing.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2431 on: July 12, 2023, 01:23:47 PM »
Only two that I know of, and neither said “looks just like Pauline Sanders”. Or even “looks like a woman”. You’re way overthinking this neckline thing.

Nope, just thinking about it-----and facing the implications of what the frame shows.

But like I say, if you think this neckline could conceivably belong to a man in Dallas '63, who am I to tell you to desist from such silliness?


Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2432 on: July 14, 2023, 05:53:45 AM »
Mr.Fords theoretical position for Oswald out front on the steps: Oswald = Lovelady
remains as questionable as the old theory Oswald=PM.

The pendulum can swing more in favor of Mr.Fords new theory if :

A. There is more substantiation of this claimed “original” Darnell film frame that the white necklace effect on PM is not an aberration or distortion from camera or translation to pixel format on the computer or smart phone screen and is therefore a true image.

B. The apparent seemly solid tone reddish brown color of the shirt of presumed Lovelady in Hughes film is not due to morphing of black and red checkerboard squared pattern and can be shown by experiment that the shirt is more probably a solid tone reddish shirt.
 
Note for B: perhaps Oswald’s actual reddish brown shirt could be worn by some person and that person be filmed with the Hughes type 63 era camera at the same distance and same sun angle. Then repeat and have someone wear Lovelady type red and black square shirt. Then compare the results as they are translated to pixel format from the 2 films.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2433 on: August 18, 2023, 12:54:01 PM »

Brief recap!: When Mr. Oswald (green arrow) leans to his right, we catch a glimpse of his reddish-sleeved right arm in the glass behind him (yellow arrow)

But there is more!: That lean also affords us a fleeting glimpse of something else being reflected in the glass. Orange arrow:



What is it? It's too light-colored to be the back of Mr. Oswald's reddish shirt, or of his dark pants.

It's the flag. He's holding it behind him, in his left hand, and is a moment away from whipping it out and starting to wave it.

This also explains why we don't see the flesh of his left hand: it's covered by his body.

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2434 on: August 18, 2023, 01:15:30 PM »
Brief recap!: When Mr. Oswald (green arrow) leans to his left, we catch a glimpse of his reddish-sleeved right arm in the glass behind him (yellow arrow)

But there is more!: That lean also affords us a fleeting glimpse of something else being reflected in the glass. Orange arrow:



But there is YET more!:

The reflection of the flag in the glass just so happens to coincide with this little bright flash:



I thought it was a camera flash. No: it's a flutter from the flag (not a reflection, the thing itself)

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« Last Edit: August 18, 2023, 01:16:24 PM by Alan Ford »

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2435 on: August 18, 2023, 10:13:59 PM »
Who let Doyle back in here? Time to fire up the “Doyle falsehoods” list again, currently numbering 784.