Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1813 on: January 03, 2022, 05:11:07 AM »
Friends, I find myself wondering again about something I suggested here some time back..................

Mr Kenneth Duvall claimed he was sitting on the third step as JFK passed.

Here is Mr Duvall in Dec '63:



And here (I am confident) is Mr Duvall in the railroad yards several minutes after the shooting:



The green circle highlights a newspaper or order book or somesuch in his shirt breast pocket.

Could this (just down and to the left of the red arrow here) be Mr Duvall, still sitting on the step, waving his paper at the passing limousine?:



And could this be Mr Duvall's arm (orange) with the paper (light-brown) still waving?



Note: Mr Duvall was in shortsleeves------------



Now! Any images taken of the entranceway around this time by a camera that is east of Mr Altgens' position will be apt to show Mr Duvall's face. But---------here's the thing---------Mr Duvall bears a striking resemblance to Mr Lee Harvey Oswald. In such a case, then such film would show the following: next to but lower than the face of Mr Lovelady (=an LHO-resembling man) the face of a man who looks for all the world like young Mr Oswald. The same Mr Oswald who was claiming in custody that he "went outside to watch P. Parade":



One such film that might have shown just such is of course the Wiegman film. And it is in that film that we just so happen to find a physically impossible shadow down the right side of Mr Lovelady, whose entire front body was, as we know, at that moment bathed in sunlight:



Is Mr Duvall's face somewhere in that physically impossible black area that darkens Mr Lovelady's right side? Did the 'investigating' authorities cover up what they thought was the face of Mr Oswald, when in fact it was the face of Mr Duvall? And did their error-sponsored fixation on Mr Duvall's face blind them to the possibility that Mr Oswald was in fact a certain shaded-into-obscurity figure standing further over by the west wall of the entrance?

Remember! Mr Duvall not being a Depository employee, he would have been someone of whose existence the 'investigating' authorities' were completely unaware.
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Online Patrick Jackson

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1814 on: January 04, 2022, 07:09:41 PM »
Reassertion of claims (that the hand/object are out near the street, that the object is a handkerchief) is not demonstration of same!

A different angle, yes of course-------but Bell shows those three women quite clearly from the front (no waving, no nothing)
A different moment--------no

Again with respect, Mr Jackson, you are putting an imaginary object into the hand of one of these women and assigning to that woman an imaginary action
Bell film shows an object above ladies heads and it is right there.
Focus on the lady on the left side, first you see her face, than she raises her hand and after you see her face again. She literally made two or three handkerchief waves, not more than three in less than two seconds. I will try to make GIF for you.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1815 on: January 04, 2022, 07:38:05 PM »
Here, I hope you will be able to see the raised hand.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1816 on: January 04, 2022, 09:09:22 PM »
Here, I hope you will be able to see the raised hand.


Thank you for this, Mr Jackson, but I see a face and hair, and no hint of a waving hand or handkerchief.

Glad to see that we now agree that Bell is indeed showing the same moment as Towner
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1817 on: January 04, 2022, 09:23:52 PM »
Thank you for this, Mr Jackson, but I see a face and hair, and no hint of a waving hand or handkerchief.

Glad to see that we now agree that Bell is indeed showing the same moment as Towner
Well, you need to cross your eyes a little bit..
Maybe someone can make better GIFs for you but do not expect to see handkerchief engraving...
Yes, I got confused with Hughes/Bell/Towner/Weigman/Darnel... films.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1818 on: January 05, 2022, 01:58:43 AM »
Well, you need to cross your eyes a little bit..
Maybe someone can make better GIFs for you but do not expect to see handkerchief engraving...
Yes, I got confused with Hughes/Bell/Towner/Weigman/Darnel... films.

No, it's still just a lady's head. If you look at the superior reproductions of the Bell frames starting here------------------

https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/displayimage.php?album=9&pos=4

------------------I'm confident you will see your error

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1819 on: January 05, 2022, 06:18:31 AM »
No, it's still just a lady's head. If you look at the superior reproductions of the Bell frames starting here------------------

https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/displayimage.php?album=9&pos=4

------------------I'm confident you will see your error
Ah, I forgot on Robin gallery, will try to make better GIF for you later tommorow.
Handkerchief came in latter frames than your link.
Sorry, but no error...