Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Patrick Jackson]

I am aware of that (i.e. that Wiegman is not showing the same moment as the Towner frames) but I fail to see a) where you are getting a handkerchief from b) what makes you think the hand-waving-an-object* belongs to one of the women you mention rather than to someone back in the entranceway

*Just down and to the left of the red arrow here:

Because I am quite sure I had another photo/frame of that ladies in front and one of them with hankerchief.

[Alan Ford]

Because I am quite sure I had another photo/frame of that ladies in front and one of them with hankerchief.

Well I'd sure like to see it, as the Bell film frames showing the same scene/time as the Towner film frames show those ladies waving nothing, handkerchief or otherwise

[Patrick Jackson]

Well I'd sure like to see it, as the Bell film frames showing the same scene/time as the Towner film frames show those ladies waving nothing, handkerchief or otherwise

Here, I have tried to extract from your GIF. Right hand is raised holding the handkerchief and in your GIF two waves are seen towards the limo. Try yourself, take a handkerchief and wave towards somebody in front of you.


I believe it belonged to one of the ladies in front.

[Alan Ford]

Here, I have tried to extract from your GIF. Right hand is raised holding the handkerchief and in your GIF two waves are seen towards the limo. Try yourself, take a handkerchief and wave towards somebody in front of you.


I believe it belonged to one of the ladies in front.

Once again, Mr Jackson, the Bell frames show no such waving from any of these ladies. That simple objective fact is--------with respect---------in no wise trumped by your subjective and rather arbitrary drawing of a hand outline on the Towner frame above.

The waving hand/object are much further back------------in the entranceway:

[Zeon Mason]

That upraised arm with what might be a bottle in the hand, is in FRONT of the black guys face so don’t see how that could be Oswalds hand since he would have stepped down momentarily from the PM corner position to be just BEHIND the black dude.

Maybe part of that arm is an airbrushed whiteish blob added to make it apoear to be the black dude raising his hand to shade his eyes.

But that’s not the way the black guys face is turned in the OTHER version of Altgens 6 photo which now the black guy is facing forward and no arm upraised and that arm has been turned into Loveladys left arm completely covered with texture pattern of Lovelady shirt, ironically with no hand at the end of the shirt sleeve with a part of the allege overlapping and cutting off part of the black dudes face.

Now would for some WC defender to go out there to those front steps of the TSBD in Dallas and take a photograph and replicate these 2 anomalous versions of the Altgens 6 photo or else it’s going to imo PROOF positive of altered photos.

[Patrick Jackson]

Once again, Mr Jackson, the Bell frames show no such waving from any of these ladies. That simple objective fact is--------with respect---------in no wise trumped by your subjective and rather arbitrary drawing of a hand outline on the Towner frame above.

The waving hand/object are much further back------------in the entranceway:

Well, I respect your oppinion of course but still think you are wrong. The only object between Tina Towner and Roy Edward Lewis on the steps is that hand with the handkerchief.
Bell is on a different angle and moment.

[Alan Ford]

Well, I respect your oppinion of course but still think you are wrong. The only object between Tina Towner and Roy Edward Lewis on the steps is that hand with the handkerchief.

Reassertion of claims (that the hand/object are out near the street, that the object is a handkerchief) is not demonstration of same!

Bell is on a different angle and moment.

A different angle, yes of course-------but Bell shows those three women quite clearly from the front (no waving, no nothing)
A different moment--------no

Again with respect, Mr Jackson, you are putting an imaginary object into the hand of one of these women and assigning to that woman an imaginary action