Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Walt Cakebread]

Oswald claimed he had gone outside to watch the motorcade. Yet this statement was hidden from the public for decades. Makes one wonder.

 Fred

No, Lee didn't claim he went outside to watch the parade AT THE TIME JFK was murdered.....  Lee said that he was in the first floor luchroom at that time ( but he didn't hear any shots, ...and went to the second floor to buy a coke at about that time ( Baker and Truly saw him there )  THEN he returned to the first floor , finished his lunch , and THEN went outside to watch the P. Parade.   

[John Iacoletti]

It's said that you don't understand the difference.

Not my concern.

It's sad that you think special pleading arguments are valid.

[Alan Ford]

On film....

Reporter:  "Were you in the building at the time?"

Oswald:  "Naturally, if I work in that building, yes sir."

Oswald admits, on film, that he was inside the building at the time of the shooting.  Therefore, Oswald was not out by the front steps.

The enclosed front entranceway is part of the building. It is not some location other than the Depository. And you have smuggled in the word "inside".

Mr Oswald told Captain Fritz he "went outside to watch P. Parade".

There is only one place that is both part of the building and outside: front steps.

Which is where Prayer Man is.

 

[John Mytton]

The enclosed front entranceway is part of the building. It is not some location other than the Depository. And you have smuggled in the word "inside".

Mr Oswald told Captain Fritz he "went outside to watch P. Parade".

There is only one place that is both part of the building and outside: front steps.

Which is where Prayer Man is.

 

You can't honestly believe your absurd interpretation of Oswald's clear as crystal explanation? If Oswald was on the front steps, he would say he was on the front steps and especially at a time when he has the World's stage and is basically pleading for his life, why on Earth would he rely on the truth being discovered by a desperate Alan Ford 55 years later? Hahaha!

Btw other Depository staff all indicated that the outside steps were OUTSIDE, why would they say otherwise?

Mr. LOVELADY - That's on the second floor; so, I started going to the domino room where I generally went in to set down and eat and nobody was there and I happened to look on the outside and Mr. Shelley was standing outside with Miss Sarah Stanton, I believe her name is, and I said, "Well, I'll go out there and talk with them, sit down and eat my lunch out there, set on the steps," so I went out there.

Mr. BALL - You were standing where?
Mr. SHELLEY - Just outside the glass doors there.
Mr. BALL - That would be on the top landing of the entrance?
Mr. SHELLEY - yes.

Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; not right then I didn't. I say, you know, he was supposed to come by during our lunch hour so you don't get very many chances to see the President of the United States and being an old Texas boy, and [he] never having been down to Texas very much I went out there to see him and just like everybody else was, I was standing on the steps there and watched for the parade to come by and so I did and I stood there until he come by

Sarah Stanton who was on the steps described to the FBI that after hearing the shots "immediately went into the building".



JohnM

[Alan Ford]

You can't honestly believe your absurd interpretation of Oswald's clear as crystal explanation? If Oswald was on the front steps, he would say he was on the front steps and especially at a time when he has the World's stage and is basically pleading for his life,

Why would he feel the need to do that?

why on Earth would he rely on the truth being discovered by a desperate Alan Ford 55 years later? Hahaha!

Btw other Depository staff all indicated that the outside steps were OUTSIDE, why would they say otherwise?

Mr. LOVELADY - That's on the second floor; so, I started going to the domino room where I generally went in to set down and eat and nobody was there and I happened to look on the outside and Mr. Shelley was standing outside with Miss Sarah Stanton, I believe her name is, and I said, "Well, I'll go out there and talk with them, sit down and eat my lunch out there, set on the steps," so I went out there.

Mr. BALL - You were standing where?
Mr. SHELLEY - Just outside the glass doors there.
Mr. BALL - That would be on the top landing of the entrance?
Mr. SHELLEY - yes.

Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; not right then I didn't. I say, you know, he was supposed to come by during our lunch hour so you don't get very many chances to see the President of the United States and being an old Texas boy, and [he] never having been down to Texas very much I went out there to see him and just like everybody else was, I was standing on the steps there and watched for the parade to come by and so I did and I stood there until he come by

Sarah Stanton who was on the steps described to the FBI that after hearing the shots "immediately went into the building".



JohnM

~Grin~

The fact that you are going to such efforts here, Mr Mytton, shows how nervous you still are about
a) Prayer Man
b) Mr Oswald's claim in custody that he "went outside to watch P. Parade".

Like I say, there is only one place (other than the roof) that is both outside and part of the building: the enclosed, roofed front steps. Which is where Prayer Man is.

As for the brief exchange with the reporter, Mr Oswald simply confirms that
i) yes, he works at the Depository
ii) yes, he was there, at his place of work, at the time.

 

[Zeon Mason]

In the confusion of the hall congestion of reporters asking questions nearly simultaneously, how probable that Oswald could have misheard the question?

IE: “Were you AT the building at the time?

Or: interpretation of “at the time” not specifically referencing to an exact moment shots were fired,  but more generally referring to the motorcade arriving at Dealey Plaza?

As to the question why Oswald is not at every opportunity vigorously stating that he was at the front entrance when shots were fired.

Um..  🤔  it’s a bit difficult...

1. Maybe Oswald did say something which did not get filmed?
2. Midnight conference, Oswald seems to be exhausted , was he drugged?
3. After hours of interrogation, without attorney present, Oswald decided not to divulge a front steps alibi until he speaks with an attorney he can trust?

[Alan Ford]

In the confusion of the hall congestion of reporters asking questions nearly simultaneously, how probable that Oswald could have misheard the question?

IE: “Were you AT the building at the time?

Or: interpretation of “at the time” not specifically referencing to an exact moment shots were fired,  but more generally referring to the motorcade arriving at Dealey Plaza?

Mr Oswald was being snippy with the reporter-------I work there, and yeah, I was there at the time of the motorcade, big deal

As to the question why Oswald is not at every opportunity vigorously stating that he was at the front entrance when shots were fired.

There's a simple explanation:
-----Mr Oswald told Captain Fritz he went outside to watch the P. Parade (front steps)
-----Captain Fritz didn't challenge him on this (he knew it was the truth), instead telling him he was suspected of having supplied the rifle
-----Mr Oswald had no idea he was being presented to the world as the actual gunman