Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[John Mytton]

Mr. BELIN. By the way, where did this policeman stop him when he was coming down the stairs at the Book Depository on the day of the shooting?
Mr. HOLMES. He said it was in the vestibule.
Mr. BELIN. He said he was in the vestibule?
Mr. HOLMES. Or approaching the door to the vestibule. He was just coming, apparently, and I have never been in there myself. Apparently there is two sets of doors, and he had come out to this front part.
Mr. BELIN. Did he state it was on what floor?
Mr. HOLMES. First floor. The front entrance to the first floor.

 

Mr. BELIN - Officer Baker, first of all, handing you what the court reporter has marked as Exhibit 498, I would like you to state if you know whether or not this appears to be the door leading from the second floor hallway into the vestibule going into the lunchroom.
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir; it does.

Mr. BELIN. What did you see?
Mr. TRULY. I heard some voices, or a voice, coming from the area of the lunchroom, or the inside vestibule, the area of 24.





JohnM

[Alan Ford]

Mr. BELIN - Officer Baker, first of all, handing you what the court reporter has marked as Exhibit 498, I would like you to state if you know whether or not this appears to be the door leading from the second floor hallway into the vestibule going into the lunchroom.
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir; it does.

Mr. BELIN. What did you see?
Mr. TRULY. I heard some voices, or a voice, coming from the area of the lunchroom, or the inside vestibule, the area of 24.





JohnM

Exactly -- the word 'vestibule' was slyly assigned a sense other than its obvious, primary one (i.e. front lobby). Mr Oswald in custody had used the word vestibule, by which he meant front lobby. The word needed to be made safe, which is what we see Messrs Belin, Baker & Truly doing here.

On 11/22/63 DPD told the world all about where Mr Oswald and the officer and the manager had their encounter: front entrance, just after the shooting. Mr Oswald, without being aware of any of these dispatches to the press, gave the very same location. Quelle coincidence!!

[Zeon Mason]

So Fritz tells Oswald that they’ve checked out his P. Parade alibi and that Oswald need not worry about being charged with murder?

If Mr. Ford’s ingenious conjecture is correct, then Fritz  confused Oswald To such degree that Oswald at the midnight press conference makes that statement “ I don’t know what all this is about” followed up by response to shooting the President with “ I haven’t been charged with that?

So What to make of Oswald the next day in the hallway   recorded on film in a brief moment saying “ I categorically deny these charges”?

[Walt Cakebread]

Mr. BELIN - Officer Baker, first of all, handing you what the court reporter has marked as Exhibit 498, I would like you to state if you know whether or not this appears to be the door leading from the second floor hallway into the vestibule going into the lunchroom.
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir; it does.

Mr. BELIN. What did you see?
Mr. TRULY. I heard some voices, or a voice, coming from the area of the lunchroom, or the inside vestibule, the area of 24.





JohnM

Verrrrry interrresting.....  Thank you Mr M....   So Mr Truly testified that officer Baker was in the vestibule...( area 24)   NOT the lunchroom......when he  ordered Lee to "come here".....   

Mr. TRULY. I heard some voices, or a voice, coming from the area of the lunchroom, or the inside vestibule, the area of 24.

Surely you know that Baker testified that he was INSIDE the lunchroom when he asked if Lee worked there.....

[Rick Plant]

Mr. Ball: And you asked him again, didn't you, what he was doing at the time the President was shot?
Mr. FRITZ: Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL: What did he say?
Mr. FRITZ: Well, he told me about the same story about this lunch.
Mr. BALL: He mentioned who he was having lunch with, did he not?
Mr. FRITZ: Yes, sir; he told me he was having lunch when the President was shot.
Mr. BALL: With whom?
Mr. FRITZ: With someone called Junior, someone he worked with down there, but he didn't remember the other boy's name.
Mr. BALL: Did he tell you what he was eating?
Mr. FRITZ: He told me, I believe, that he had, I am doing this from memory, a cheese sandwich, and he also mentioned he had some fruit, I had forgotten about the fruit until I looked at this report.
Mr. BALL: Did he say that was in the package he had brought from home?
Mr. FRITZ: Yes, sir; there was one reason I asked him about what was in the package, we had had a story that had been circulated around the meantime about some chicken bones, I am sure you heard of that, and I wanted to find for sure what he did have in his lunch and he told me about having--he told me they did not have any chicken out there and I also talked with the Paines and they told me they didn't have any chicken in the icebox, they did have some cheese.
Mr. BALL: But he said he had had lunch with Junior?
Mr. FRITZ: Yes, sir; and with someone else.
Mr. BALL. Did you find out that there was an employee named Junior, a man that was nicknamed Junior at the Texas School Book Depository?
Mr. FRITZ: Probably we have it here, some of the officers probably did, we had all these people checked out. I didn't do it myself probably.

[Alan Ford]

So Fritz tells Oswald that they’ve checked out his P. Parade alibi and that Oswald need not worry about being charged with murder?

If Mr. Ford’s ingenious conjecture is correct, then Fritz  confused Oswald To such degree that Oswald at the midnight press conference makes that statement “ I don’t know what all this is about” followed up by response to shooting the President with “ I haven’t been charged with that?

So What to make of Oswald the next day in the hallway   recorded on film in a brief moment saying “ I categorically deny these charges”?

He is categorically denying the charges of a) shooting officer Tippit, b) having involvement in the shooting of Mr Kennedy

[Alan Ford]

Mr. Ball: And you asked him again, didn't you, what he was doing at the time the President was shot?
Mr. FRITZ: Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL: What did he say?
Mr. FRITZ: Well, he told me about the same story about this lunch.
Mr. BALL: He mentioned who he was having lunch with, did he not?
Mr. FRITZ: Yes, sir; he told me he was having lunch when the President was shot.
Mr. BALL: With whom?
Mr. FRITZ: With someone called Junior, someone he worked with down there, but he didn't remember the other boy's name.
Mr. BALL: Did he tell you what he was eating?
Mr. FRITZ: He told me, I believe, that he had, I am doing this from memory, a cheese sandwich, and he also mentioned he had some fruit, I had forgotten about the fruit until I looked at this report.
Mr. BALL: Did he say that was in the package he had brought from home?
Mr. FRITZ: Yes, sir; there was one reason I asked him about what was in the package, we had had a story that had been circulated around the meantime about some chicken bones, I am sure you heard of that, and I wanted to find for sure what he did have in his lunch and he told me about having--he told me they did not have any chicken out there and I also talked with the Paines and they told me they didn't have any chicken in the icebox, they did have some cheese.
Mr. BALL: But he said he had had lunch with Junior?
Mr. FRITZ: Yes, sir; and with someone else.
Mr. BALL. Did you find out that there was an employee named Junior, a man that was nicknamed Junior at the Texas School Book Depository?
Mr. FRITZ: Probably we have it here, some of the officers probably did, we had all these people checked out. I didn't do it myself probably.

Mr Fritz let the truth slip a little earlier in his testimony:

Mr. FRITZ. Well he told me that he was eating lunch with some of the employees when this happened, and that he saw all the excitement and he didn't think--I also asked him why he left the building. He said there was so much excitement there then that "I didn't think there would be any work done that afternoon and we don't punch a clock and they don't keep very close time on our work and I just left."

(Note BTW that 'leaving the building' here means departing the Depository building, i.e. going down into the street and away. Mr Oswald didn't leave the building until he left the front steps to go home------------he saw the 'excitement' from the front steps and after that decided to leave the building.)

Thanks to the earthquake revelation of the Agent Hosty draft interrogation report 11/22/63, we can piece together exactly what Mr Oswald told Captain Fritz:

1. I broke for lunch and came downstairs
2. I bought a Coca Cola from the machine in the second-floor lunchroom
3. I came back down to the first floor and started eating my lunch
4. While down there I noticed Junior and (Norman) come in
5. I then went outside to watch the P. Parade (I was standing beside Mr Shelley when it all happened)
6. Just after that a police officer came running up into the front entrance etc

In the first official report of that first interrogation (by Agents Hosty & Bookhout), these claims were either fudged or distorted. In the second report on that same interrogation (by Agent Bookhout ALONE), the timeline and facts were completely distorted into the following garbage...............

1. I encountered a police officer and Mr Truly in the second-floor lunchroom (---> post-assassination)
2. I came down to the first floor and ate lunch (---> post-assassination)
3. I then went outside where I got chatting with Mr Shelley (---> post-assassination)