Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1477 on: March 18, 2021, 02:47:13 AM »
So you now admit that Ms Stanton's statement that the limo was out of her view when she heard the shots does not-----------as you so energetically insisted-------------put her on the west side of the entranceway? Excellent.

Unfortunately for your mad revival of the garbage Doyle theory, nothing else puts her there either.

I suggest you now move on to your next no-hoper candidate. How about Mr Jack Dougherty? As long as it's Anybody But Oswald, right?

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You've dishonestly taken one element I've presented out of context. Each point supports the other. You're avoidance of the other points is noted.

Haven't you got anything to say about the hole you've dug for yourself with the Altgens image?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1478 on: March 18, 2021, 10:58:14 AM »
You've dishonestly taken one element I've presented out of context.

Nope, you dishonestly took Ms Stanton's statement about the limo going out of view and presented it out of context. You made a fool of yourself!

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Each point supports the other.

Ah, but the problem is that each point can't even support itself

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avoidance of the other points is noted.

We went round and round the houses on these garbage arguments with poor mad Mr Doyle. Your revival of his discredited nonsense shows how desperate you are to find an alternative candidate for Mr Oswald. How about you go connect with Mr Doyle on Facebook and indulge your reality-denying silliness that way?

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Haven't you got anything to say about the hole you've dug for yourself with the Altgens image?

I have dug no hole for myself with the Altgens image. You're just trying to deflect from your inability to substantiate your claim about The Amazing Lovelady Contortion in Wiegman.



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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1479 on: March 18, 2021, 03:09:44 PM »
The point about Stanton was just one of a few points that you've side-stepped. Just to remind you:

These points have already been addressed, Dan.

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Lovelady is clearly placing Stanton on the west side of the entranceway.

No he's not.  "Next to me" could be in any direction.

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It is clear from Altgens 6 that anyone standing on the east side of the entranceway has a clear view of the motorcade as the shots are being fired. Only someone standing closer to the west wall would not have this clear line of sight.

You can't make that assumption without knowing why she was unable to see the car.

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Frazier identifies Sarah as being on the top step standing back in the shadows. People on the east side of the front steps are not standing in shadow.

They are if they are up on the landing.  We also don't know when this conversation took place with respect to the Wiegman and Darnell films, or Altgens.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1480 on: March 18, 2021, 06:40:22 PM »
They are ((in shadow, A.F.)) if they are up on the landing.

Like Mr Mytton did, Mr O'Meara has forgotten about the horizontal shadow

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1481 on: March 21, 2021, 05:15:03 PM »

No he's not.  "Next to me" could be in any direction.


I agree that "next to me" could be in any direction.

Lovelady states he is stood by the west wall when the limo passes by.

The Hughes clip shows Lovelady stood against the west wall when the limo passes by.

To me this strongly suggests Stanton has moved from the position Pauline Sanders places Stanton on the east side of the front steps.

Not sure how Stanton can be stood next to Lovelady and Sanders

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1482 on: March 21, 2021, 09:43:41 PM »
I agree that "next to me" could be in any direction.

Lovelady states he is stood by the west wall when the limo passes by.

The Hughes clip shows Lovelady stood against the west wall when the limo passes by.

To me this strongly suggests Stanton has moved from the position Pauline Sanders places Stanton on the east side of the front steps.

Not sure how Stanton can be stood next to Lovelady and Sanders

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1483 on: March 22, 2021, 10:07:00 PM »
I agree that "next to me" could be in any direction.

Lovelady states he is stood by the west wall when the limo passes by.

The Hughes clip shows Lovelady stood against the west wall when the limo passes by.

To me this strongly suggests Stanton has moved from the position Pauline Sanders places Stanton on the east side of the front steps.

Not sure how Stanton can be stood next to Lovelady and Sanders

Why couldn't she have been between Lovelady and Sanders just on the east side of the handrail?