Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Alan Ford]

The encounter was on the second floor. It looks like there is a double set of doors leading from the 2nd floor stairs to the lunchroom.

No, there are two doors, not two sets of doors. And no front part. Mr Oswald was describing the front entrance on the first floor.

There is a little triangular shaped space between the doors. It was through those windows that Baker caught a glimpse of him and noticed him walking in the lunchroom. Apparently LHO thought the little space was called a vestibule.

It appears Mr Oswald did use that word. Its primary meaning is front lobby, but it can also mean portico or front porch.

Mr Belin, during Mr Roy Truly's testimony, makes sure to misdescribe the space you refer to as a 'vestibule'.

Unless the coke machine is on the first floor he was stopped by the Baker on the second.

Mr. BELIN. By the way, where did this policeman stop him when he was coming down the stairs at the Book Depository on the day of the shooting?

Mr. HOLMES. He said it was in the vestibule.
Mr. BELIN. He said he was in the vestibule?
Mr. HOLMES. Or approaching the door to the vestibule. He was just coming, apparently, and I have never been in there myself. Apparently there is two sets of doors, and he had come out to this front part.
Mr. BELIN. Did he state it was on what floor?
Mr. HOLMES. First floor. The front entrance to the first floor.

Mr. HOLMES. First floor. The front entrance to the first floor.
Mr. BELIN. Did he say anything about a Coca Cola or anything like that, if you remember?
Mr. HOLMES. Seems like he said he was drinking a Coca Cola, standing there by the Coca Cola machine drinking a Coca Cola.

He states that LHO encountered the policeman while he was standing by the coke machine. There is not a coke machine on the first floor. The coke machine is on the second floor.

~Grin~ Your gift for tuning out uncongenial data is impressive, Mr Nessan!

Mr HOLMES. ... But he went downstairs, and as he went out the front, it seems as though he did have a coke with him, or he stopped at the coke machine, or somebody else was trying to get a coke, but there was a coke involved. He mentioned something about a coke .

Mr Holmes is certain about the front entrance to first floor part, a lot less so about the coke part ("Seems like he said... It seems as though...")

Mr Oswald did indeed mention something about a Coke--a Coke which he had bought from the machine up in the lunchroom before the motorcade and which he now had in his hand at the front entrance when the officer came storming up those steps.

[Bill Chapman]

There was a Dr. Pepper machine on the first floor and apparently Dr. Pepper was Oswald's fav according to JFK assassination lore. But seems Oswald believed the TV spots and decided that 'things go better with Coca-Cola, things go better with Coke!'

[Walt Cakebread]

No, there are two doors, not two sets of doors. And no front part. Mr Oswald was describing the front entrance on the first floor.

It appears Mr Oswald did use that word. Its primary meaning is front lobby, but it can also mean portico or front porch.

Mr Belin, during Mr Roy Truly's testimony, makes sure to misdescribe the space you refer to as a 'vestibule'.

~Grin~ Your gift for tuning out uncongenial data is impressive, Mr Nessan!

Mr HOLMES. ... But he went downstairs, and as he went out the front, it seems as though he did have a coke with him, or he stopped at the coke machine, or somebody else was trying to get a coke, but there was a coke involved. He mentioned something about a coke .

Mr Holmes is certain about the front entrance to first floor part, a lot less so about the coke part ("Seems like he said... It seems as though...")

Mr Oswald did indeed mention something about a Coke--a Coke which he had bought from the machine up in the lunchroom before the motorcade and which he now had in his hand at the front entrance when the officer came storming up those steps.

Alan ... What is it going to take to get you to extract your head?    Holmes statements are at odds with the statements of others who attended the same interrogation session.    Either Holmes misinterpreted  what Lee said, or Holmes deliberately screwed up the information.  ( I believe the latter)

[Walt Cakebread]

No, there are two doors, not two sets of doors. And no front part. Mr Oswald was describing the front entrance on the first floor.

It appears Mr Oswald did use that word. Its primary meaning is front lobby, but it can also mean portico or front porch.

Mr Belin, during Mr Roy Truly's testimony, makes sure to misdescribe the space you refer to as a 'vestibule'.

~Grin~ Your gift for tuning out uncongenial data is impressive, Mr Nessan!

Mr HOLMES. ... But he went downstairs, and as he went out the front, it seems as though he did have a coke with him, or he stopped at the coke machine, or somebody else was trying to get a coke, but there was a coke involved. He mentioned something about a coke .

Mr Holmes is certain about the front entrance to first floor part, a lot less so about the coke part ("Seems like he said... It seems as though...")

Mr Oswald did indeed mention something about a Coke--a Coke which he had bought from the machine up in the lunchroom before the motorcade and which he now had in his hand at the front entrance when the officer came storming up those steps.

Vestibule--- Any of several chambers or channels adjoining or connecting one space with another.   ie;  The vestibule between two railway passenger cars.

I wouldn't call the small hallway at the west end of the 2nd floor lunchroom a "vestibule" ( I'd call it a hall ) However some folks would call it a vestibule and they would be correct...because that hallway did in fact connect the 2nd floor office area with the lunchroom.   Incidentally....  I've noticed that nobody ever mentions the fact that there were two lunch rooms in the TSBD, just as there were separate  dining areas for "colored" and "white" in many public dining places in Dallas.  It appears to me that the 2nd floor lunch room was for white office workers and the first floor lunchroom was for the colored warehouse workers.   However the white warehouse workers could eat in the 1st floor lunchroom if they chose to....But.... I'll bet that a colored employee was not allowed to eat in the 2nd floor lunchroom.   

[Jack Nessan]

No, there are two doors, not two sets of doors. And no front part. Mr Oswald was describing the front entrance on the first floor.

It appears Mr Oswald did use that word. Its primary meaning is front lobby, but it can also mean portico or front porch.

Mr Belin, during Mr Roy Truly's testimony, makes sure to misdescribe the space you refer to as a 'vestibule'.

~Grin~ Your gift for tuning out uncongenial data is impressive, Mr Nessan!

Mr HOLMES. ... But he went downstairs, and as he went out the front, it seems as though he did have a coke with him, or he stopped at the coke machine, or somebody else was trying to get a coke, but there was a coke involved. He mentioned something about a coke .

Mr Holmes is certain about the front entrance to first floor part, a lot less so about the coke part ("Seems like he said... It seems as though...")

Mr Oswald did indeed mention something about a Coke--a Coke which he had bought from the machine up in the lunchroom before the motorcade and which he now had in his hand at the front entrance when the officer came storming up those steps.

He radically changed his story in this final interview. He abandoned the idea he ate lunch with or near the coworkers. He admitted to being on the upper floors during the assassination based on his continuing to work until he came downstairs because of th commotion and encountered Baker in the 2nd floor lunchroom. I agree It is hard to believe he would do this but maybe the confusion of the interview played a part. In the end I really don't think LHO was that clever or an actual plan existed to assassinate JFK and for him to escape. It reinforces the idea it was totally spur of the moment

Mr. HOLMES. There was no formality, to the interrogation. One man would question Oswald. Another would interrupt with a different trend of thought, or something in connection, and it was sort of an informal questioning or interrogation.

The confusion of having a number of officials and the randomness of the questions may have placed LHO off guard. All that is reported is the answers never the questions or statements by the officials. It is entirely possible someone told him his coworkers denied seeing him at lunch either as a bluff or by actual knowledge causing LHO to alter his story. Ultimately he places himself as being alone and working upstairs until two verifiable encounters took place.

In todays world the request for an attorney would have ended the interview. Back then it does not appear to have mattered.

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The use of the word "vestibule' also seems to take Belin back. You can tell by his reaction. Because of a Catholic upbringing I immediately thought of the area prior to entering the church itself. Outside doors, a space(vestibule), and then more doors to the church. I also thought it was an odd way to describe it. Holmes did not seem to particularly agree with the use either.

The key to the Coke story is not LHO drinking one , but that he was physically standing by the machine itself when he was talking to Baker. That can only be accomplished if he is on the second floor.
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Your vocabulary is very impressive. I was forcedd to look up the definition of uncongenial  along with several others. Based on an engineering background, if you don't pay attention to the details, your newly constructed bridge just might fall into the river.

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[Alan Ford]

He radically changed his story in this final interview. He abandoned the idea he ate lunch with or near the coworkers. He admitted to being on the upper floors during the assassination

A simply amazing admission for Mr Oswald to make---------made all the more amazing by the fact that no one familiar with Mr Oswald's claims to date even noticed the change in story!

All we've got here is Inspector Holmes compressing time (the break for lunch... what happened afterwards).

based on his continuing to work until he came downstairs because of th commotion and encountered Baker in the 2nd floor lunchroom.

A simply amazing admission for Mr Oswald to make---------made all the more amazing by the fact that he was seen downstairs after folks broke for lunch!

I agree It is hard to believe he would do this but maybe the confusion of the interview played a part. In the end I really don't think LHO was that clever or an actual plan existed to assassinate JFK and for him to escape. It reinforces the idea it was totally spur of the moment

No, all it reinforces is the impression that you can't explain why Mr Oswald would make such a suicidal 'admission'

Mr. HOLMES. There was no formality, to the interrogation. One man would question Oswald. Another would interrupt with a different trend of thought, or something in connection, and it was sort of an informal questioning or interrogation.

The confusion of having a number of officials and the randomness of the questions may have placed LHO off guard. All that is reported is the answers never the questions or statements by the officials. It is entirely possible someone told him his coworkers denied seeing him at lunch either as a bluff or by actual knowledge causing LHO to alter his story. Ultimately he places himself as being alone and working upstairs until two verifiable encounters took place.

This is just speculation and wishful thinking, Mr Nessan

In todays world the request for an attorney would have ended the interview. Back then it does not appear to have mattered.

Really? Read Inspector Kelley's report on the Sunday morning interview!

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The use of the word "vestibule' also seems to take Belin back. You can tell by his reaction.

Hardly...

Mr. BELIN. By the way, where did this policeman stop him when he was coming down the stairs at the Book Depository on the day of the shooting?
Mr. HOLMES. He said it was in the vestibule.
Mr. BELIN. He said he was in the vestibule?
Mr. HOLMES. Or approaching the door to the vestibule. He was just coming, apparently, and I have never been in there myself. Apparently there is two sets of doors, and he had come out to this front part.
Mr. BELIN. Did he state it was on what floor?
Mr. HOLMES. First floor. The front entrance to the first floor.

Two sets of doors... front part... first floor... front entrance.

Just like DPD were telling press on 11/22. Amazing coincidence!

[Walt Cakebread]

He radically changed his story in this final interview. He abandoned the idea he ate lunch with or near the coworkers. He admitted to being on the upper floors during the assassination based on his continuing to work until he came downstairs because of th commotion and encountered Baker in the 2nd floor lunchroom. I agree It is hard to believe he would do this but maybe the confusion of the interview played a part. In the end I really don't think LHO was that clever or an actual plan existed to assassinate JFK and for him to escape. It reinforces the idea it was totally spur of the moment

Mr. HOLMES. There was no formality, to the interrogation. One man would question Oswald. Another would interrupt with a different trend of thought, or something in connection, and it was sort of an informal questioning or interrogation.

The confusion of having a number of officials and the randomness of the questions may have placed LHO off guard. All that is reported is the answers never the questions or statements by the officials. It is entirely possible someone told him his coworkers denied seeing him at lunch either as a bluff or by actual knowledge causing LHO to alter his story. Ultimately he places himself as being alone and working upstairs until two verifiable encounters took place.

In todays world the request for an attorney would have ended the interview. Back then it does not appear to have mattered.

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The use of the word "vestibule' also seems to take Belin back. You can tell by his reaction. Because of a Catholic upbringing I immediately thought of the area prior to entering the church itself. Outside doors, a space(vestibule), and then more doors to the church. I also thought it was an odd way to describe it. Holmes did not seem to particularly agree with the use either.

The key to the Coke story is not LHO drinking one , but that he was physically standing by the machine itself when he was talking to Baker. That can only be accomplished if he is on the second floor.
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Your vocabulary is very impressive. I was forcedd to look up the definition of uncongenial  along with several others. Based on an engineering background, if you don't pay attention to the details, your newly constructed bridge just might fall into the river.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=tacoma+bridge+collapse&docid=608045869369786645&mid=D8B80A1C110379BC596AD8B80A1C110379BC596A&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

He admitted to being on the upper floors during the assassination based on his continuing to work until he came downstairs because of the commotion and encountered Baker in the 2nd floor lunchroom.

No, that's not correct.....  Holmes reported that Lee said that, but NONE of the other listeners heard Lee say that.   Harry Holmes is the only one who reported Lee making such a insanely incriminating statement. 

I agree It is hard to believe he would do this but maybe the confusion of the interview played a part.

So you are smart enough to recognize that it's highly unlikely that Lee would say that ...and you continue to believe Holmes in spite of the fact that the other listeners never heard Lee say anything like that.

In the end I really don't think LHO was that clever or an actual plan existed to assassinate JFK and for him to escape. It reinforces the idea it was totally spur of the moment.

Why are you diverting from the official government approved tale?.....  The official tale says that the arch villain  Lee Harvey Oswald plotted the murder for months..... Starting with the order of a rifle in March of 1963,  from a mail order house, and using a false name.