Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Walt Cakebread]

A simply amazing admission for Mr Oswald to make---------made all the more amazing by the fact that no one familiar with Mr Oswald's claims to date even noticed the change in story!

All we've got here is Inspector Holmes compressing time (the break for lunch... what happened afterwards).

A simply amazing admission for Mr Oswald to make---------made all the more amazing by the fact that he was seen downstairs after folks broke for lunch!

No, all it reinforces is the impression that you can't explain why Mr Oswald would make such a suicidal 'admission'

This is just speculation and wishful thinking, Mr Nessan

Really? Read Inspector Kelley's report on the Sunday morning interview!

Hardly...

Mr. BELIN. By the way, where did this policeman stop him when he was coming down the stairs at the Book Depository on the day of the shooting?
Mr. HOLMES. He said it was in the vestibule.
Mr. BELIN. He said he was in the vestibule?
Mr. HOLMES. Or approaching the door to the vestibule. He was just coming, apparently, and I have never been in there myself. Apparently there is two sets of doors, and he had come out to this front part.
Mr. BELIN. Did he state it was on what floor?
Mr. HOLMES. First floor. The front entrance to the first floor.

Two sets of doors... front part... first floor... front entrance.

Just like DPD were telling press on 11/22. Amazing coincidence!

Alan, can't you understand that Holmes took the use of the word "vestibule" too literally?   As you have pointed out the primary meaning of the word "vestibule" means a space or compartment between the exterior front door and an interior front door.  The use of that word "vestibule", caused Holmes ( who had never been in the TSBD)  to visualize the event as taking place at the front door to the TSBD.

Mr. BELIN. By the way, where did this policeman stop him when he was coming down the stairs at the Book Depository on the day of the shooting?
Mr. HOLMES. He said it was in the vestibule.
Mr. BELIN. He said he was in the vestibule?
Mr. HOLMES. Or approaching the door to the vestibule. He was just coming, apparently, and I have never been in there myself. Apparently there is two sets of doors, and he had come out to this front part.
Mr. BELIN. Did he state it was on what floor?
Mr. HOLMES. First floor. The front entrance to the first floor.

[Jack Nessan]

A simply amazing admission for Mr Oswald to make---------made all the more amazing by the fact that no one familiar with Mr Oswald's claims to date even noticed the change in story!

All we've got here is Inspector Holmes compressing time (the break for lunch... what happened afterwards).

A simply amazing admission for Mr Oswald to make---------made all the more amazing by the fact that he was seen downstairs after folks broke for lunch!

No, all it reinforces is the impression that you can't explain why Mr Oswald would make such a suicidal 'admission'

This is just speculation and wishful thinking, Mr Nessan

Really? Read Inspector Kelley's report on the Sunday morning interview!

Hardly...

Mr. BELIN. By the way, where did this policeman stop him when he was coming down the stairs at the Book Depository on the day of the shooting?
Mr. HOLMES. He said it was in the vestibule.
Mr. BELIN. He said he was in the vestibule?
Mr. HOLMES. Or approaching the door to the vestibule. He was just coming, apparently, and I have never been in there myself. Apparently there is two sets of doors, and he had come out to this front part.
Mr. BELIN. Did he state it was on what floor?
Mr. HOLMES. First floor. The front entrance to the first floor.

Two sets of doors... front part... first floor... front entrance.

Just like DPD were telling press on 11/22. Amazing coincidence!

 You are right, unbelievable, he was offered an attorney and to have him present when interviewed and continued on talking anyway. Proof of just how clever he was. You seriously can't imagine him incriminating himself the way he did. I believe his arrogance played a part in his admission. He simply thought he was smarter than he was. In the end he inadvertently stated he was on the upper floors during the assassination.

Kelley: Oswald stated that at various other times he had been thoroughly interrogated by the FBI; that they had used all the usual interrogation practices and all their standard operating procedure; that he was very familiar with interrogation, and he had no intention of answering any questions concerning any shooting; that he knew he did not have to answer them and that he would not answer any questions until he had been given counsel. He stated that the FBI had used their hard and soft approach to him, they used the buddy system; that he was familiar with all types of questioning and had no intention of making any statement. He said that in the past three weeks when the FBI had talked to his wife, they were abusive and impolite; that they had frightened his wife and he considered their activities obnoxious. He stated that he wanted to contact a Mr. Abt, a New York lawyer whom he did not know but who had defended the Smith Act "victims" in 1949 or 1950 in connection with a conspiracy against the Government; that Abt would understand what this case was all about and that he would give him an excellent defense. He stated in returning a question about his former addresses that he lived at 4907 magazine Street in New Orleans at one time and worked for the William Riley Company; that he was arrested in New Orleans for disturbing the peace and paid a $10 find while he was demonstrating for the Fair Play for Cuba Committee; that he had a fight with some anti-Castro refugees and that they were released while he was fined.


The different interviewers just let him talk. The more he says the better. Let him hang himself and he finally did just that. All his interviews were a variation of the same story.

Someone did record his final alteration of the story. Holmes noted what he said and it is obvious you see the importance and significance of his change in his movements of the day. LHO's mistake was centered on him stating he came down after the "commotion" nothing more. LHO's story always had him in an encounter with Baker on the second floor following the assassination which he stated he came down the stairs to the encounter in the second floor lunchroom. At the time nobody had a clear view of the whole picture of the employees movements, today we do.

[Walt Cakebread]

 You are right, unbelievable, he was offered an attorney and to have him present when interviewed and continued on talking anyway. Proof of just how clever he was. You seriously can't imagine him incriminating himself the way he did. I believe his arrogance played a part in his admission. He simply thought he was smarter than he was. In the end he inadvertently stated he was on the upper floors during the assassination.

Kelley: Oswald stated that at various other times he had been thoroughly interrogated by the FBI; that they had used all the usual interrogation practices and all their standard operating procedure; that he was very familiar with interrogation, and he had no intention of answering any questions concerning any shooting; that he knew he did not have to answer them and that he would not answer any questions until he had been given counsel. He stated that the FBI had used their hard and soft approach to him, they used the buddy system; that he was familiar with all types of questioning and had no intention of making any statement. He said that in the past three weeks when the FBI had talked to his wife, they were abusive and impolite; that they had frightened his wife and he considered their activities obnoxious. He stated that he wanted to contact a Mr. Abt, a New York lawyer whom he did not know but who had defended the Smith Act "victims" in 1949 or 1950 in connection with a conspiracy against the Government; that Abt would understand what this case was all about and that he would give him an excellent defense. He stated in returning a question about his former addresses that he lived at 4907 magazine Street in New Orleans at one time and worked for the William Riley Company; that he was arrested in New Orleans for disturbing the peace and paid a $10 find while he was demonstrating for the Fair Play for Cuba Committee; that he had a fight with some anti-Castro refugees and that they were released while he was fined.


The different interviewers just let him talk. The more he says the better. Let him hang himself and he finally did just that. All his interviews were a variation of the same story.

Someone did record his final alteration of the story. Holmes noted what he said and it is obvious you see the importance and significance of his change in his movements of the day. LHO's mistake was centered on him stating he came down after the "commotion" nothing more. LHO's story always had him in an encounter with Baker on the second floor following the assassination which he stated he came down the stairs to the encounter in the second floor lunchroom. At the time nobody had a clear view of the whole picture of the employees movements, today we do.

Oswald stated that at various other times he had been thoroughly interrogated by the FBI; that they had used all the usual interrogation practices and all their standard operating procedure; that he was very familiar with interrogation, and he had no intention of answering any questions concerning any shooting; that he knew he did not have to answer them and that he would not answer any questions until he had been given counsel. He stated that the FBI had used their hard and soft approach to him, they used the buddy system; that he was familiar with all types of questioning and had no intention of making any statement.

Oswald stated that at various other times he had been thoroughly interrogated by the FBI;

True....We know that Lee had in fact been interrogated on at least two prior occasions.....

he was very familiar with interrogation,

True... He had been educated by ONI, about how to resist hostile interrogation, I while in the MC , before he was sent to Russia on an intel mission. ( All GI's are taught to resist hostile interrogation, but those GI's who enter Military Intelligence are thoroughly trained on how to handle the various interrogation techniques. )

he was offered an attorney and to have him present when interviewed and continued on talking anyway. Proof of just how clever he was.

Lee knew that he needed a lawyer that had Top Secret clearance .....He could not discuss anything with a lawyer who did not have the TOP SECRET  clearance.

LHO's mistake was centered on him stating he came down after the "commotion" nothing more.

Lee did not say that..... Holmes said that.....But NONE of the other listeners heard Lee make such an absurdly incriminating statement.   

[Zeon Mason]

Are there any other prints of the Altgens 6 photo that show the same anomaly (fore arm with bottle in hand) as in the Cronkite  TV show print ?

[Alan Ford]

Someone did record his final alteration of the story. Holmes noted what he said and it is obvious you see the importance and significance of his change in his movements of the day. LHO's mistake was centered on him stating he came down after the "commotion" nothing more. LHO's story always had him in an encounter with Baker on the second floor following the assassination which he stated he came down the stairs to the encounter in the second floor lunchroom. At the time nobody had a clear view of the whole picture of the employees movements, today we do.

No sensational, game-changing final alteration of the story was noted by Captain Fritz or anyone else, and the reason is that there was no sensational, game-changing final alteration of the story.

--------------------Mr Oswald said he visited the second floor lunchroom before the motorcade and went outside to watch the P. Parade.

--------------------Mr Oswald said he encountered a cop at the front entrance.

This is the same story: Mr Oswald being out front for the assassination puts him in Officer Baker's path. And-------a point you keep ignoring-------DPD on 11/22 were telling the press all about this front entrance encounter. And Mr Lovelady saw it and told Mr Jarman all about it.

If Officer Baker's dash into the building had not been so disastrously quick, the encounter never would have been moved up to the second floor lunchroom.

[Alan Ford]

Are there any other prints of the Altgens 6 photo that show the same anomaly (fore arm with bottle in hand) as in the Cronkite  TV show print ?

Not to my knowledge, Mr Mason

[Alan Ford]

From Mr Truly's 11/22 FBI interview report------------



Why are you telling us this, Mr Truly?