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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #91 on: February 16, 2018, 08:55:35 PM »
As for the notes, Fritz could have put those down after the interrogations, based on memory.

I was asking though, in your opinion, was Fritz directly involved in framing Lee Oswald?  Did Fritz know about the assassination beforehand?

I believe that he did.....

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #92 on: February 16, 2018, 08:57:59 PM »
I believe that he did.....

And yet, after the assassination happens, Fritz then (apparently at the very extreme last minute) tries to add Buell Frazier as one of the patsies?

Offline Dan DAlimonte

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« Reply #93 on: February 16, 2018, 09:10:30 PM »
And yet, after the assassination happens, Fritz then (apparently at the very extreme last minute) tries to add Buell Frazier as one of the patsies?

Not only that but he interrogates the Hell out of Molina.
It doesn't add up.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #94 on: February 16, 2018, 09:36:31 PM »
So.... Marina stated (in a signed affidavit, unless Marina's signature was not signed by herself)

No, she stated something in Russian.

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that she saw a rifle in the blanket.

That's it.  No more.  No less.

Ok.  That's about as useful as Marina stating that Oswald took a gun to go take a look at Nixon.

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #95 on: February 16, 2018, 09:38:05 PM »
Not only that but he interrogates the Hell out of Molina.
It doesn't add up.

Exactly.

I'm curious about Cakebread's thoughts on it.

Offline Dan DAlimonte

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #96 on: February 16, 2018, 10:21:14 PM »
Perhaps true if Oswald was the shooter. But who in their right mind would rely on Oswald alone to be the shooter? Who in their right mind would use a crappy bolt action rifle with a useless scope to do the shooting? That's what the Mauser was for. The MC was the plant gun and the DPD staged the crime scene before and after the Big Event. They needed to clear out the actual shooters and then convince Oswald to stick around and wait to be caught and carried out feet 1st. Oswald was having none of that. He might have fled the scene once he realized he was being set up as the patsy. IMO, he did everything according to plan until things went awry at the pick up location where Tippit got murdered. That's when Oswald knew he was the pasty.

All it takes is 1 other person involved in the Big Event for Oswald to not be a lone nut assassin. I'd say the actions of the Keystone DPD and much of the evidence demonstrate that this was clearly a conspiracy. In which case, Oswald was not a lone nut, he was a patsy. Every good coup needs one. How involved he was in the Big Event, is the only thing up for debate. IMO.

Hey, Jack.  To me anyway Oswald was involved up to his neck ... Yes, most likely ... not the shooter.
Here's my take on his involvement.

If you look at what the LN's support they have two big things going for them.
One - the physical evidence and .... and ... and ... his own actions
Now let's just look at the latter for a second.

Just before the Big Event as you put it.

Goes home Thursday ... not his regular routine.
Leaves wedding ring and a sizable amount of money behind  Why?
Well, to me, he is saying Good-bye and I don't know, given the events of the day,
how anyone could think otherwise.
Brings a package to work.
Tells Frazier he won't be needing a ride home.
Walks well ahead of Frazier going into the TSBD.

Gees, talk about telegraphing what he's about to do.

Now, let's just say Oswald was part of a team of two to three people.
And let's say further that they were going to escape in a station wagon
and he's job was to direct the police's attention to him.  To be a decoy of sorts.
Him having his own escape plans AND them having their own plan by leaving by plane
at Red Bird Airfield. 

So ... if this was Oswald's plan where would he be, but on the lower floors?
Staying in the background.  Not drawing attention to himself. 
Since he was involved he'd have no WTF moment with anyone.  No asking of questions.
Nothing.  Maybe drinking a pop.  Just biding his time so he could calmly walk out of the building
which was sure to be sealed off in let's say, 5 -10 minutes, or so he thought

And .. it goes on but this is what I believe took place and I still maintain that ALL assassins
were captured that day and then ... given the identity of these assassins all roads had to lead to Oswald
acting alone.

Just my opinion of course with scanty evidence to support me.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2018, 10:39:03 PM by Dan DAlimonte »

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #97 on: February 16, 2018, 10:30:11 PM »
Goes home Thursday ... not his regular routine.

But not the first time he broke his regular routine.

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Leaves wedding ring and a sizable amount of money behind  Why?
Well, to me, he is saying Good-bye and I don't know, given the events of the day,
how anyone could think otherwise.

They had an argument and she refused to move back in with him.

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Brings a package to work.

That Frazier and Randle said was not long enough to carry the alleged murder weapon.

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Tells Frazier he won't be needing a ride home.

Again, he and Marina had a fight and she refused to move back in with him.

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Walks well ahead of Frazier going into the TSBD.

Frazier was lollygagging, first "charging" his battery and then looking at the trains.