Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...

[Jack Trojan]

If that group was so powerful ... the DPD would have rushed in the TSBD  immediately
and if he came out it should have been feet first.  .

Perhaps true if Oswald was the shooter. But who in their right mind would rely on Oswald alone to be the shooter? Who in their right mind would use a crappy bolt action rifle with a useless scope to do the shooting? That's what the Mauser was for. The MC was the plant gun and the DPD staged the crime scene before and after the Big Event. They needed to clear out the actual shooters and then convince Oswald to stick around and wait to be caught and carried out feet 1st. Oswald was having none of that. He might have fled the scene once he realized he was being set up as the patsy. IMO, he did everything according to plan until things went awry at the pick up location where Tippit got murdered. That's when Oswald knew he was the pasty.

All it takes is 1 other person involved in the Big Event for Oswald to not be a lone nut assassin. I'd say the actions of the Keystone DPD and much of the evidence demonstrate that this was clearly a conspiracy. In which case, Oswald was not a lone nut, he was a patsy. Every good coup needs one. How involved he was in the Big Event, is the only thing up for debate. IMO.

[Walt Cakebread]

Perhaps true if Oswald was the shooter. But who in their right mind would rely on Oswald alone to be the shooter? Who in their right mind would use a crappy bolt action rifle with a useless scope to do the shooting? That's what the Mauser was for. The MC was the plant gun and the DPD staged the crime scene before and after the Big Event. They needed to clear out the actual shooters and then convince Oswald to stick around and wait to be caught and carried out feet 1st. Oswald was having none of that. He might have fled the scene once he realized he was being set up as the patsy. IMO, he did everything according to plan until things went awry at the pick up location where Tippit got murdered. That's when Oswald knew he was the pasty.

All it takes is 1 other person involved in the Big Event for Oswald to not be a lone nut assassin. I'd say the actions of the Keystone DPD and much of the evidence demonstrate that this was clearly a conspiracy. In which case, Oswald was not a lone nut, he was a patsy. Every good coup needs one. How involved he was in the Big Event, is the only thing up for debate. IMO.

the DPD staged the crime scene before and after the Big Event.

Not the entire DPD....  But some of the Key conspirators were high ranking officers at the DPD....  Captain Fritz was right at the top.

[Bill Brown]

Feel free to make a case for its relevance, when everything else about that incident is considered.

Actually it's not.  It's a fact that Ilya Mamantov claimed that Marina said that in his translation.

But let's say that the translation was accurate.  Then it's also a fact that Marina said that Lee worked at a place on Hines, Lee used to have a rifle in Russia, and that the rifle he had was a dark gun.

So what?

So.... Marina stated (in a signed affidavit, unless Marina's signature was not signed by herself) that she saw a rifle in the blanket.

That's it.  No more.  No less.

[Bill Brown]

the DPD staged the crime scene before and after the Big Event.

Not the entire DPD....  But some of the Key conspirators were high ranking officers at the DPD....  Captain Fritz was right at the top.

What exactly do you believe Fritz did, related to being a conspirator?

[Royell Storing]

Perhaps true if Oswald was the shooter. But who in their right mind would rely on Oswald alone to be the shooter? Who in their right mind would use a crappy bolt action rifle with a useless scope to do the shooting? That's what the Mauser was for. The MC was the plant gun and the DPD staged the crime scene before and after the Big Event. They needed to clear out the actual shooters and then convince Oswald to stick around and wait to be caught and carried out feet 1st. Oswald was having none of that. He might have fled the scene once he realized he was being set up as the patsy. IMO, he did everything according to plan until things went awry at the pick up location where Tippit got murdered. That's when Oswald knew he was the pasty.

All it takes is 1 other person involved in the Big Event for Oswald to not be a lone nut assassin. I'd say the actions of the Keystone DPD and much of the evidence demonstrate that this was clearly a conspiracy. In which case, Oswald was not a lone nut, he was a patsy. Every good coup needs one. How involved he was in the Big Event, is the only thing up for debate. IMO.

   The erratic route that Oswald took to reach his rooming house would indicate he realized he had been patsied Prior to leaving the TSBD. While on-the-fly, he was simultaneously considering what to do next.

[Walt Cakebread]

What exactly do you believe Fritz did, related to being a conspirator?

Controlled the investigators subordinate to him..... And those subordinates destroyed the original photos and substituted "reconstructed photos" and then presented them as authentic photos .

That is evidence tampering and it is a felony....

He said that he took no notes during the interrogation of Lee Oswald....  You've seen the notes he scribbled....So at the least he was a damned liar.... 

[Bill Brown]

Controlled the investigators subordinate to him..... And those subordinates destroyed the original photos and substituted "reconstructed photos" and then presented them as authentic photos .

That is evidence tampering and it is a felony....

He said that he took no notes during the interrogation of Lee Oswald....  You've seen the notes he scribbled....So at the least he was a damned liar....

As for the notes, Fritz could have put those down after the interrogations, based on memory.

I was asking though, in your opinion, was Fritz directly involved in framing Lee Oswald?  Did Fritz know about the assassination beforehand?