The Silent Conspiracy

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Offline Jon Banks

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« Reply #91 on: January 20, 2020, 07:14:34 PM »
He was in a good enough mood to play with the kids in the yard, but not good enough to have a conversation with Ruth about JFK’s visit?

I can’t speak for LHO’s state of mind but I don’t view his unwillingness to make conversation with Ruth Paine as proof of anything...

Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #92 on: January 20, 2020, 08:04:20 PM »
I can’t speak for LHO’s state of mind but I don’t view his unwillingness to make conversation with Ruth Paine as proof of anything...

Neither do I. However, it is evidence that I believe should be considered in forming an opinion about whether or not LHO still liked JFK. And if considered in conjunction with the public threats of both Castro and JFK against each other that fall, and the evidence that even you indicated suggests LHO was involved in JFK’s assassination then it appears to me that perhaps LHO changed his opinion of JFK...

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« Reply #93 on: January 20, 2020, 08:16:41 PM »
Why do you assume he was “avoiding” it rather than just not being interested?

Because he actually did avoid it. I didn’t indicate why. I asked a question.

Offline Jon Banks

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« Reply #94 on: January 20, 2020, 08:22:01 PM »
Neither do I. However, it is evidence that I believe should be considered in forming an opinion about whether or not LHO still liked JFK. And if considered in conjunction with the public threats of both Castro and JFK against each other that fall, and the evidence that even you indicated suggests LHO was involved in JFK’s assassination then it appears to me that perhaps LHO changed his opinion of JFK...

Oswald knew JFK was against Castro when the Bay of Pigs happened in 1961. Tensions between the US and Cuba were very high from 1961 through 1963.

If the BoP and Cuban Missile Crisis didn’t turn Oswald against Kennedy, I don’t see why any reports of Covert ops against Castro in 1963 would’ve turned Oswald against Kennedy.

Also, Oswald couldn’t have known months before November 1963 that he’d have an opportunity to shoot JFK but he did know how to find anti-Castro activists in New Orleans and Dallas. Why are there no examples of Oswald resorting to violence against the anti-Castro groups? If you believe he attempted to kill Gen. Walker over Cuba, why didn’t he attempt to kill someone like Carlos Bringuer?

Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #95 on: January 20, 2020, 08:28:18 PM »
Granted, he likely suspected that the KGB was reading the letters so he wanted to impress them with his devotion of the country.

Bingo. Which is what a false defector would want to do.

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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« Reply #96 on: January 20, 2020, 11:03:32 PM »
"Oswald was extremely critical of President Kennedy, and he was just obsessed with what America did to support this invasion at the Bay of Pigs.... obsessed with his anger towards Kennedy...."
Volkmar Schimdt, relating a conversation he had with Oswald at a party in Dallas in February of 1963.

I find it difficult to believe that a self-described Marxist (as he understood the word) who admired Castro so much that he actually sang songs to him would also admire the president of the main enemy of that man. It makes no sense. Yes, we have DeMohrenschildt saying that Oswald "admired" JFK and Marina saying she thought he "liked" Kennedy. So one can argue it both ways.

But let's remember that Oswald "left" the Texas Schoolbook Depository Building about three minutes after the shooting. There is no evidence that at any time afterwards did he show any interest at all in what happened to Kennedy, the man he supposedly "like" or "admired." He never talked to any co-worker about the incident, he didn't stay around to find out what happened to Kennedy, he never discussed with anyone he met on his way to his rooming house the incident and when he arrived at his rooming house to discover the housekeeper watching television he never once asked her if she knew what happened.

Zero interest at all. For a politically obsessed person like Oswald that is very, very odd.




Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #97 on: January 20, 2020, 11:22:01 PM »
Because he actually did avoid it. I didn’t indicate why. I asked a question.

There’s no reason to assume he avoided it, just because he didn’t engage Ruth Paine in conversation about it.