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Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #637 on: November 25, 2019, 06:33:46 PM »
:D :D :D

I'm simply stating a fact, Mr Mytton, and it's a fact that all on its own is lethal to your barmy idea!  Thumb1:

Because ya goofed up, Mr Mytton. Big time. You looked at this from Mr Mitcham-----------



----------and asked yourself 'Where else on that shadow line could one put Lovelady?'

But in looking at the overhead and asking yourself the question you failed to factor in the horizontal shadow! :D

For there is a horizontal shadow, and it hits the head of any adult standing at any depth whatsover on that landingThumb1:

Look see!





We know from the angle at which Altgens is taken that that guy in the yellow rectangle must be right up near the front of the landing. And yet you would have us believe that Mr Lovelady in Wiegman is further back than him and yet somehow manages to catch no horizontal shadow...

Magical thinking, Mytton-style!  :D

And what is up with Billy Lovelady's left shoulder in Altgens photo 6? Its MISSING. How could white shirt tie guy have his white shirt in FRONT of Loveladys left shoulder but his head is behind Lovelady?

my suspicion IF Oswald is out there somewhere, that Oswald is in the area behind Lovelady but just LEFT of Buell W. Frazier.

In effect, Oswald came out behind everyone, and positions himself in the space between Prayerblob and Buell W Frazier and its THIS space which had to be darkened out.

They did NOT darken out Prayerblob, because Prayerblob, imo is Sarah Stanton and thus no reason to need to blot out Stanton.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2019, 06:35:22 PM by Zeon Mason »

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #638 on: November 25, 2019, 07:24:18 PM »
my suspicion IF Oswald is out there somewhere, that Oswald is in the area behind Lovelady but just LEFT of Buell W. Frazier.

In effect, Oswald came out behind everyone, and positions himself in the space between Prayerblob and Buell W Frazier and its THIS space which had to be darkened out.

Your point about PrayerPerson not being blacked out of Wiegman is well taken, Mr Mason. Thumb1:

As for Mr Oswald's precise whereabouts in that entrance, we thankfully don't need to speculate:



The first Wiegman frames show Mr Oswald at Mr Lovelady's left (i.e. east!) shoulder, after which his head moves west------------



-----------and Altgens shows a tiny portion of Mr Oswald peeking out behind Mr Lovelady's left:



Altgens therefore must have been taken just before those first Wiegman frames. Certainly not after them, as Mr Lovelady has stepped down by then.

This is not a fire drill, folks, this really is the official story burning down to the ground! Thumb1:
« Last Edit: November 25, 2019, 07:42:42 PM by Alan Ford »

Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #639 on: November 26, 2019, 01:03:46 AM »
Your point about PrayerPerson not being blacked out of Wiegman is well taken, Mr Mason. Thumb1:



Altgens therefore must have been taken just before those first Wiegman frames. Certainly not after them, as Mr Lovelady has stepped down by then.

This is not a fire drill, folks, this really is the official story burning down to the ground! Thumb1:

it looks to me like that right side of tie man (is this supposed to be Bill Shelly?) is of the same texture as Loveladys shirt. How is that possible if thats supposed to be a solid BLACK suit that tie guy/Shelly? is wearing?
« Last Edit: November 26, 2019, 01:06:45 AM by Zeon Mason »

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #640 on: November 26, 2019, 08:05:35 PM »
it looks to me like that right side of tie man (is this supposed to be Bill Shelly?) is of the same texture as Loveladys shirt. How is that possible if thats supposed to be a solid BLACK suit that tie guy/Shelly? is wearing?

Easy-----it's not Mr Shelley!  Thumb1:

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #641 on: November 26, 2019, 09:04:18 PM »
Now!

Let us remind ourselves of a key fact here---------------Mr Lovelady is seen in the Hughes film on a low step over by the west of the entranceway when JFK actually passes the building:



He then moves east towards the center railing and up several steps in order to keep JFK's limousine in view. Both Altgens and (then) Wiegman capture him straining to do just that, though his posture does not remain quite the same from Altgens to Wiegman (compare position of tshirt relative to head!):





Mr Lovelady gets in Mr Oswald's way...



Hence the movement of Mr Oswald's head:



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« Last Edit: November 26, 2019, 09:09:06 PM by Alan Ford »

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #642 on: November 27, 2019, 02:16:42 AM »
Now!

Let us remind ourselves of a key fact here---------------Mr Lovelady is seen in the Hughes film on a low step over by the west of the entranceway when JFK actually passes the building:



He then moves east towards the center railing and up several steps in order to keep JFK's limousine in view. Both Altgens and (then) Wiegman capture him straining to do just that, though his posture does not remain quite the same from Altgens to Wiegman (compare position of tshirt relative to head!):





Mr Lovelady gets in Mr Oswald's way...



Hence the movement of Mr Oswald's head:



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Okay, Alan, where you have highlighted the presumed to be Oswalds head located to the LEFT of and behind Lovelady, would better explain having to blacken out that space just to the left of Lovelady.


« Last Edit: November 27, 2019, 02:19:52 AM by Zeon Mason »

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #643 on: November 27, 2019, 10:44:54 AM »
Okay, Alan, where you have highlighted the presumed to be Oswalds head located to the LEFT of and behind Lovelady, would better explain having to blacken out that space just to the left of Lovelady.

I'm sorry, Mr Mason, I don't quite understand what you mean here... Are you using 'left' to mean Mr Lovelady's left, i.e. east? Or left as we look at the image?

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