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Offline John Iacoletti

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So how do you distinguish between an "unhurried" guy who just shot the president and an unhurried guy who didn't?
>>> Exactly

So no matter how he acted that's "evidence of guilt".

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Like you even know what Oswald did in front of a certain shoe-store salesman.
>>> Brewer knows.

He "looked funny" whatever the hell that means.

Offline Denis Pointing

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He "looked funny" whatever the hell that means.

Hi John, well, let's get the answer for that from the 'horse's mouth' : "Mr BREWER - He just looked funny to me. Well, in the first place, I had seen him some place before. I think he had been in my store before. And when you wait on somebody, you recognize them, and he just seemed funny. His hair was sort of messed up and looked like he had been running, and he looked seared, and he looked funny." Now, in-its-self the above means absolutely zero..untill it's put into context with the immediate surroundings. An officer had just been murdered a short distance away, police cars were racing up an down the street sirens blaring, as the police cars approached a man turns into the shop vestibule, once the cars pass the man leaves. Of course, none of this proves Oswald did anything wrong, that's not the point I'm trying to make. What I'm saying is that under those circumstances and that Oswald appeared as if "His hair was sort of messed up and looked like he had been running, and he looked seared", any reasonable person's suspicions would be aroused just as Brewer's was. To be fair this post isn't particularly aimed at yourself, it's directed at the many who've claimed Brewer never had any reason to be suspicious of Oswald 'just for looking into his shop window'.
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Offline Joe Elliott

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"Booth's pistol?  LOL."  No one saw Booth pull the trigger or carry the pistol into Ford's theatre per the CTer standard.  He had worked there.  Just going about his business.  Afterward he heard a commotion and decided to go for a horseback ride since he figured the play was over.  Never convicted.  Presumed innocent.  Obviously he was killed to silence him.   

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Offline Tom Scully

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"Booth's pistol?  LOL."  No one saw Booth pull the trigger or carry the pistol into Ford's theatre per the CTer standard.  He had worked there.  Just going about his business.  Afterward he heard a commotion and decided to go for a horseback ride since he figured the play was over.  Never convicted.  Presumed innocent.  Obviously he was killed to silence him.   

I deliberately did not display any mention of a "pistol" although the word is included in the article I linked to and can only assume Richard was influenced by.
My omission was intentional because it was predictable that word would be seized upon in the deflection driven, "drive by" posts deposited since in this thread by (disruptive) "contributors" not actually intent on contributing anything enlightening. Detraction results from deliberate distraction. The result is that this forum is what it is; (a daycare center of personal issues plagued personalities?) certainly not what it could be, a reference trove supported by numerous linked cites!

This year, the Rolling Stone article published in 1976, featuring then 17 years old Nate Orlowek, is 43 years old news....

Four months ago, this was reported.:
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https://www.inquirer.com/news/john-wilkes-booth-lincoln-conspiracy-photo-recognition-20190415.html
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Thank you for degrading this thread, Richard, et al. I expect some readers regard the "pistol" posts as meaningful contribution to discussion. The actual point of
the thread is the well supported observation that the debated issues about the JFK Assassination, 56 years on, will never be settled and may, as further time passes,
become even more unsettled if this continuing Booth controversy is any guide.


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Joe, thanks for weighing in!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derringer
Derringer

...The original Philadelphia Deringer was a single-shot muzzleloading percussion cap pistol introduced in 1852, by Henry Deringer. In total, approximately 15,000 Deringer pistols were manufactured.[1] All were single barrel pistols with back action percussion locks, typically .41 caliber with rifled bores, and walnut stocks. Barrel length varied from 1.5" to 6", and the hardware was commonly a copper-nickel alloy known as "German silver"....

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Offline Bill Chapman

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So no matter how he acted that's "evidence of guilt"
>>> Nah... it's only evidence that he looked unhurried.

Your species seems overjoyed with Whaley's observation and
have practically declared the little snot innocent.

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« Last Edit: August 22, 2019, 10:22:19 AM by Bill Chapman »

Offline John Iacoletti

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Your species seems overjoyed with Whaley's observation and have practically declared the little snot innocent.

Evidence of this "overjoyment"?  Or this "practical declaration"?

Online Mark A. Oblazney

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Thanks for baiting him and exposing the outrageous double standards. Hilarious!

JohnM

Double standards, or no actual standards? Virginia Davis misrepresented her age to DPD and in her Warren Commission sworn testimony but her credibility is NOT to be questioned, despite unique details she "recounted".

William Whaley created the legend of the LN fleeing the scene of the crime with curious lack of urgency, (ice water in Oswald's veins, cold blooded, reptilian killer, scrambled egg for a brain, per "reporter" Breslin, echoed by Nellie Connally) offering Whaley's
cab to a woman who seemed to Whaley to communicate a greater air of urgency than the LN assassin. Remarkably consistent records into the mid 1940s, including the date of his parents' 1907 marriage, Whaley's 1908 birth year, 1910, '20, '30, and '40 US census records, Whaley's son's birth certificate, and Whaley's 1942 military draft record all indicate he was born in 1908.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/13730776/william-wayne-whaley/photo


News reporters, including the highly regarded (by LNs...) Hugh Aynesworth, reported that Whaley served as a "Navy gunner" in the 1945 invasion of Iwo Jima, earning a Navy Cross for his combat related actions. No proof of this high award for his combat service has ever emerged and LNs are remarkably incurious. Whaley's son (and namesake) born in 1931, went to live with Whaley's wife's sister after her 1934, TB related death. Whaley Jr. considered his aunt and her husband to be his parents.

The lack of interest in any of these issues which would predictably influence any reasonable person (the sort sought via voir dire jury pool questioning by both defense and prosecuting attorneys) to discount the general credibility of both Ms. Davis and Mr. Whaley, since their deceptions were ongoing as they testified, are judged less troubling, or of no concern whatsoever, compared to the disqualification of 1865 Lincoln Assassination witness, Maj. Rathbone, because he murdered his wife 18 years after his Lincoln testimony?

If Booth lived long enough to be tried...."Maj. Rathbone, have you ever contemplated murdering your fiance?"
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"Ms. Davis, (or Mr. Whaley), why do defense investigators inform our Oswald defense team of d.o.b. dates of your background records different from the age you have represnted yourself to be to inquiring officials or to the press?"

Isn't the core deficiency, (for the inquiring, open minded) the deprivation of a criminal trial, owing to lax DPD security, indifference by Sheriff Bill Decker and
Ruby's murderous act, resulted in no defense attorney raising some of the issues (and similarly, about other prosecution witnesses) to a trial jury, which I present in this post?

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most extraordinary, tom.  thanks for your time+