O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House

[Oscar Navarro]

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.....

Mr. BALL. Did he tell you what his name was?
Mrs. JOHNSON. O.H. L-e-e [spelling].
Mr. BALL. Did he sign anything with that name?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes, sir; I have it in my purse.
Mr. BALL. May I see it?
Mrs. JOHNSON. I will be glad to--I don't want you to keep it. I want you to--I brought it for your information. I knew you was going to ask that.
Mr. BALL. Now, is this in his handwriting?
Mrs. JOHNSON. This "O. H. Lee" is in his handwriting and this other is in the housekeeper's handwriting--Mrs. Roberts.
Mr. BALL. And these are the rates you gave him?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes.
Mr. BALL. I would like this marked as an exhibit to this deposition, mark this Exhibit A. ?.

Mr. BALL. We will make a copy of this and give the original back to you and we will mark this "A." Did he sign that "O. H. Lee" in your presence?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes sir.
Mr. BALL. On that day?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes, sir; the day he rented the room, they sign the register--they sign the register before I accept any money.
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Mr. BALL. I'm talking about this "O. H. Lee" signature on this document; he signed that on that date?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did he give you the money?
Mr. BALL. $8?
Mr. BALL. Did you ever know his true name was Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mrs. JOHNSON. No; not until we saw his picture flash on the television as the officers were out. Those particulars was found in his pocket after he killed Tippit, after his arrest. So I came from the restaurant, I guess 1 or 1:30, and these officers were there 1:30 or 2, something like that, anyway, it was after this assassination, and as I drove in, well, the officers were there and they told me that they was looking for this character and I told them I didn't think I had anyone by that name there but we went through the register carefully two or three times and there was no Oswald there and I had two new tenants, rather new tenants, so we had carried them around the house to show them and we was going to start in the new tenants' rooms and my husband was sitting in the living room and seen this picture flash on the television and he said, "Please go around that house and tell him it was this guy that lived in this room here"; and it was O. H. Lee.
Mr. BALL. That is the first time you learned his name was Oswald?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes.
Mr. BALL. You knew him as O. H. Lee?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes; I knew him as O. H. Lee.
Mr. BALL. The first time you knew the man to be Lee Harvey Oswald that you had known as O. H. Lee?
Mrs. JOHNSON. That's right...??

Direct solid evidence that Oswald rented the room under an assumed name, an alias, O. H. Lee. Oswald signed the document, Mrs. Johnson was present when Oswald signed the document, Mr. and Mrs. Johnson both identified Oswald as O. H. Lee. On top of that Marina testified the Oswald used the alias and that's why she was so pissed off at him. That is why Oswald went to the Paine's house on Thursday evening after work. My impression is that Oswald tried to mend fences with his wife and if that didn't work then he would take drastic action, like killing the POTUS. It was a premeditated action by Oswald that hinged on Marina's reaction to his plea for reconciliation. The little scumbag went over the edge because he was a loser with visions of grandeur who found himself unable to control his wife.

[Jerry Freeman]

  Oswald signed the document

Document? What document? The classified Top Secret scrap that was obviously produced post Action?

Mr. BALL. May I see it?
Mrs. JOHNSON. I will be glad to--I don't want you to keep it. I want you to--I brought it for your information.   

Why not?

Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes, sir; the day he rented the room, they sign the register--they sign the register before I accept any money.

Again- Whatever happened to that register?

Mrs. JOHNSON.  Those particulars was found in his pocket after he killed Tippit, after his arrest. ... the officers were there and they told me that they was looking for this character and I told them I didn't think I had anyone by that name there but we went through the register carefully two or three times and there was no Oswald there and I had two new tenants, rather new tenants

Where was that stinking register? Who were the 'new tenants'?
I really meant/should have mentioned that Johnson did not correct the counsel right from the opening testimony like Roberts did.

Mr. BALL. Well, now, you knew Lee Oswald, didn't you?
Mrs. JOHNSON. Well, I just knew him when I seen him. I knew him as a renter, that's all.

Let us bear in mind that this was all months after the action.
Even if Oswald did in fact introduce himself as O H Lee...no one ever mentioned that they called him Mr Lee. [Maybe they called him O H or O]? The conjecture regarding why Oswald would conceal his identity at that time is weak at best.

 

[Oscar Navarro]

Document? What document? The classified Top Secret scrap that was obviously produced post Action? Why not?  Again- Whatever happened to that register? Where was that stinking register? Who were the 'new tenants'?
I really meant/should have mentioned that Johnson did not correct the counsel right from the opening testimony like Roberts did.Let us bear in mind that this was all months after the action.
Even if Oswald did in fact introduce himself as O H Lee...no one ever mentioned that they called him Mr Lee. [Maybe they called him O H or O]? The conjecture regarding why Oswald would conceal his identity at that time is weak at best.

Document? What document? The classified Top Secret scrap that was obviously produced post Action?

Johnson (Gladys J.) Exhibit A

Why not?

She wanted to sell it

Again- Whatever happened to that register?

I don't know. Maybe she sold it to a collector.

Where was that stinking register? Who were the 'new tenants'?
I really meant/should have mentioned that Johnson did not correct the counsel right from the opening testimony like Roberts did.

What do you mean by Johnson not correcting counsel?

Let us bear in mind that this was all months after the action.
Even if Oswald did in fact introduce himself as O H Lee...no one ever mentioned that they called him Mr Lee. [Maybe they called him O H or O]? The conjecture regarding why Oswald would conceal his identity at that time is weak at best.

The only conjecture I see is your response.

[Jerry Freeman]

Document?  Johnson (Gladys J.) Exhibit A...  Maybe she sold it [the register] to a collector.

Exhibit A was contrived..any idiot can see that. Concealing and disposing of evidence in a federal investigation is a crime even though there was no trial involved. I suspect the actual register was destroyed.  I doubt most here had even known about Exhibit A until I posted it. The Oz did it alone people merely bought the still unproven axiom.
 

[Louis Earl]

I think LHO was at Beckley for 5 weeks prior to the assassination.  Seems like enough time for at least one person out of over a dozen to have something to say about him. 

[Jerry Freeman]

I think LHO was at Beckley for 5 weeks prior to the assassination.  Seems like enough time for at least one person out of over a dozen to have something to say about him.

Yet, according to Mrs Paine's testimony, she called the Beckley rooming house and had asked for Lee Oswald. She said the man that answered told her that there was no Lee Oswald living there.

Mr. JENNER - Did you hear from him then either on the 14th or 15th in respect to his effort to obtaining employment at the Texas School Depository?
Mrs. PAINE - He called immediately on Tuesday, the 15th, after he had been accepted and said he would start work the next day.
Mr. JENNER - When you say immediately, what time of day was that?
Mrs. PAINE - Midmorning I would say...
.....Mr. JENNER - Had you had any information that he was not residing at the YMCA?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mr. JENNER - How did you come by that information?
Mrs. PAINE - He gave me a telephone number, possibly this same weekend.
...Mr. JENNER - This would be the weekend of what?
Mrs. PAINE - So this must have been the weekend of the 12th of October, the same weekend.

As Walt mentioned previously...something doesn't add up.
Reviewing the WC timeline...

October 7, 1963: Ruth drives LHO to the bus station, and he returns to Dallas to look for
work. Later, LHO obtains a room at 621 Marsalis St.
 October 12, 1963: LHO advised his landlady that he was leaving for the weekend, and
she stated that she didn't want him to return. LHO went to Ruth's for the weekend.
 October 14, 1963: Ruth drives LHO to Dallas, where he later registers as O.H. Lee at a
new rooming house on North Beckley....[She drove him to Dallas and then what? Drops him off in the middle of town? She must have known where he stayed and lied about it]
October 15, 1963: LHO applies at the TSBD and is hired.
 October 16, 1963: LHO begins work at the TSBD.

At this point I wondered ...What actually occurred? What Ruth said or what the final Report says she said?

Mr. JENNER - That is of importance, Mrs. Paine. Would you give us the circumstances, please?
Mrs. PAINE - He said that he was at a--
Mr. JENNER - Excuse me, where was he when he said this?
Mrs. PAINE - He was at the home so far as I remember. It might have been during one of his telephone calls to the house, but I don't think so. He rarely talked with me when he was out.
But the timeline says that he stayed in Irving that weekend, having finished his stay at the Marsalis place.
Mr. JENNER - This would be the weekend of what?
Mrs. PAINE - So this must have been the weekend of the 12th of October, the same weekend.
Mr. JENNER - That was the weekend following his return to Dallas on the 7th of October?
Mrs. PAINE - Fourth of October.
Mr. JENNER - He departed on the 7th.
Mrs. PAINE - His return to Dallas, I am sorry.
Mr. JENNER - Yes; now, give it as chronologically as you can; how you came by that telephone number, the circumstances under which it was given to you.
Mrs. PAINE - He said this is the telephone number.
Mr. JENNER - Was Marina present?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes. He said of the room where he was staying, renting a room, and I could reach him here if she went into labor......
......Mr. JENNER - Did he give you more than one telephone number?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mr. JENNER - At this occasion did he give you more than one telephone number?
Mrs. PAINE - No.
Mr. JENNER - Just stick to this particular occasion. What telephone number--did you record it?  ... He did not give you an address?
Mrs. PAINE - No.
........Mr. JENNER - Now, relate for the Commission the circumstances under which you received a second number?
Mrs. PAINE - He gave me a second number, I suppose by phone, but I don't recall.
Mr. JENNER - When?
Mrs. PAINE - It was certainly before the birth of the baby..... 
....Mr. JENNER - Which recollection serves you best, that he called or that he gave it to you in your home?
Mrs. PAINE - I don't recall. [an excremental memory had Mrs Paine]
Mr. JENNER - What did he say?
Mrs. PAINE - He said he moved to different rooms....   

From the Shaw trial....

Q: And do you know whether or not she was successful in locating him at that number?
A: She asked me to dial the number, and I did and asked for Lee Oswald, and someone answered saying he didn't know anyone of that name, and I asked was this number such and such, he said yes, it was, and was it a rooming house, he said yes, it was, so at that point I didn't know what to do and just thanked him and hung up.

Why would Oswald give out a phone number for a room where he would no longer be staying?
 Why would he give out a phone number as if he may want to be called and then anyone answering the phone would not know who he really was and he wouldn't get the call? It didn't make any sense and it still doesn't. If Paine called as she said she did...who was the guy that answered?
Why were none of the other Berkley Ave boarders ever questioned?
Reference links....   http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/paineshaw.htm    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/paine_r3.htm  http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/paine_r2.htm    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/paine_r1.htm
   

[Bill Chapman]

Exhibit A was contrived..any idiot can see that. Concealing and disposing of evidence in a federal investigation is a crime even though there was no trial involved. I suspect the actual register was destroyed.  I doubt most here had even known about Exhibit A until I posted it. The Oz did it alone people merely bought the still unproven axiom.

Exhibit A was contrived..any idiot can see that

LOL

You've just admitted to being an idiot