Zapruder's testimony to the WC = conspiracy

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Online Joe Elliott

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Re: Zapruder's testimony to the WC = conspiracy
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2018, 03:56:01 AM »


Abraham Zapruder's testimony to the WC gives strong support for a conspiracy.
He says he thought the shots came from behind him... that the police running behind him thought the same... and there was an indication that there were two assassins....


Mr. LIEBELER. As you were standing on this abutment facing Elm street, you say the police ran over behind the concrete structure behind you and down the railroad track behind that, is that right?

Mr. ZAPRUDER. After the shots?

Mr. LIEBELER. Yes.

Mr. ZAPRUDER. Yes--after the shots--yes, some of them were motorcycle cops--I guess they left their motorcycles running and they were running right behind me, of course, in the line of the shooting. I guess they thought it came from right behind me.

Mr. LIEBELER. Did you have any impression as to the direction from which these shots came?

Mr. ZAPRUDER. No, I also thought it came from back of me. Of course, you can't tell when something is in line it could come from anywhere, but being I was here and he was hit on this line and he was hit right in the head--I saw it right around here, so it looked like it came from here and it could come from there.

Mr. LIEBELER. All right, as you stood here on the abutment and looked down into Elm Street, you saw the President hit on the right side of the head and you thought perhaps the shots had come from behind you?

Mr. ZAPRUDER. Well, yes.


Mr. Zapurder?s comments imply that he thought the head wound he saw was an entrance wound. Of course, just a large wound could not have been an entrance wound, it was where the bullet exited the head. Indeed, it was technically an explosive wound, a large wound covering several square inches which occurred about 5 milliseconds after the formation of the much smaller exit wound (see Larry Sturdivan?s book The JFK Myths).

This was a natural mistake from a non ballistic expert. If that wound was an entry wound, then yes, the shooter would be somewhere behind Mr. Zapruder at z313.

Offline Steve Taylor

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Re: Zapruder's testimony to the WC = conspiracy
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2018, 11:59:24 AM »
  Allan, very good post.  I posted the following gif twice here over the years, but nobody commented.  It can get lonely at times here, but I wanted you to know that I totally agree with your analysis.  My gif was put up to show that additional shots came in at about 330, and that Connally was still holding his hat in his right hand up until then.  After that, Connally's hand is forced rapidly down with his body quickly following.  JC doesn't remember when his hand was injured.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Zapruder's testimony to the WC = conspiracy
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2018, 03:36:10 PM »
11 posts, including posts with non conforming quotes have just been deleted.

If you are replying to a post, make sure the quoted post conforms to the one space between text lines before you reply.


IOW... In replying to your post, I should be certain that I place a space between the lines of text? 

For example in quoting Paul's post....

It was already known that it would not be right. But then the research had to be restarted again.
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All those 26 Volumes in the bin can you can you imagine all that invested tax money in a hoax.
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Explain to me how the shooter could do this from the SN at an angle of about 35 degrees to the target!

Yes there are some who tried that, like Mr. Holland an that former SS agent Howell or like Mr. Robert Cutler without boxes. Or like Mr. Pat Speer investigated those shots.

So keep on tuned.

They failed also, (Mr. Holland an that former SS agent Howell)  if you look well at that documantery!

You always avoid my question of how and exactly from which place the shooter shot behind that window.

Like I showed you before a 35 degrees angle is not possible from that nest layout!!

Online Royell Storing

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Re: Zapruder's testimony to the WC = conspiracy
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2018, 03:53:14 PM »
IOW... In replying to your post, I should be certain that I place a space between the lines of text? 

For example in quoting Paul's post....

It was already known that it would not be right. But then the research had to be restarted again.
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All those 26 Volumes in the bin can you can you imagine all that invested tax money in a hoax.
Space------------
Explain to me how the shooter could do this from the SN at an angle of about 35 degrees to the target!

Yes there are some who tried that, like Mr. Holland an that former SS agent Howell or like Mr. Robert Cutler without boxes. Or like Mr. Pat Speer investigated those shots.

So keep on tuned.

They failed also, (Mr. Holland an that former SS agent Howell)  if you look well at that documantery!

You always avoid my question of how and exactly from which place the shooter shot behind that window.

Like I showed you before a 35 degrees angle is not possible from that nest layout!!

    Saying "a 35 degrees angle is Not possible from that nest layout" would be incorrect.  The physical position of the shooter needs to be taken into consideration. STANDING, sitting, kneeling, etc. Remember, there was an eyewitness, (forget who), that said something along the lines of someone in the sniper's nest/window "Standing DOWN".

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Zapruder's testimony to the WC = conspiracy
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2018, 05:42:21 PM »
    Saying "a 35 degrees angle is Not possible from that nest layout" would be incorrect.  The physical position of the shooter needs to be taken into consideration. STANDING, sitting, kneeling, etc. Remember, there was an eyewitness, (forget who), that said something along the lines of someone in the sniper's nest/window "Standing DOWN".

I recall someone (Brennan?) saying the shooter stepped or stood back or down after the last shot.

In a military context, to 'stand down' means to relax from a ready position... which the shooter did after the last shot, apparently. Seems the shooter was a trained military type... possibly a Marine?  :)

stand down
phrasal verb of stand
1.
withdraw or resign from a position or office.
"he stood down as leader of the party"
2.
relax or cause to relax after a state of readiness.
"if something doesn't happen soon, I guess they'll stand us down"
synonyms:   relax, stand easy, come off full alert
"tell the troops to stand down"
phrasal verb of stand
1.
withdraw or resign from a position or office.
"he stood down as leader of the party"
2.
relax or cause to relax after a state of readiness.
"if something doesn't happen soon, I guess they'll stand us down"
synonyms:   relax, stand easy, come off full alert
"tell the troops to stand down"

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Zapruder's testimony to the WC = conspiracy
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2018, 06:20:44 PM »
Prove that he stood during the shooting sequence
The guy(s) behind the fence were definitely standing...why would they be sitting?

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Zapruder's testimony to the WC = conspiracy
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2018, 06:35:37 PM »
The guy(s) behind the fence were definitely standing...why would they be sitting?

Duh. They were disguised as the picket fence... of course they had to stand.

Kinda like Sherlock as a chair
Starting at about 1:25

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