What happened to the Mauser?

[Jake Maxwell]

actually it is agent Sayers
and Weitzman is describing [in detail] the 7.65 rifle found in TSBD 11/22

Unless the reader follows the narrative closely, it can seem as though Weitzman held and described the rifle to FBI agent Sayers on 11/23... But no, this report was made the next day (11/23), about events that happened mostly on the sixth floor the previous day (11/22).

Weitzman observed the rifle on 11/22, according to the FBI report, and he described it as a Mauser 7.65 on 11/23....

[Matt Grantham]

Maybe this beating a dead horse, but occasionally it might be nice to see what facts we agree on In regard to the Curry holding a rifle over his head to the press and the film shot of Fritz handling a weapon seems to be unarguably the MC That does not automatically lead to the notion that a second rifle was there and was the source of the confusion That option seems unlikely unless virtually everyone involved was in on a plan to create two different story-lines available to them.

[Walt Cakebread]

Unless the reader follows the narrative closely, it can seem as though Weitzman held and described the rifle to FBI agent Sayers on 11/23... But no, this report was made the next day (11/23), about events that happened mostly on the sixth floor the previous day (11/22).

Weitzman observed the rifle on 11/22, according to the FBI report, and he described it as a Mauser 7.65 on 11/23....

Thank you for posting the FBI report....  It is dated 11/23/63.    Here's a question for you...Do you have more faith in the FBI report or your own God given eyes?

There are dozens of photos that show Lt Day with the MANNLICHER CARCANO at thje TSBD that afternoon.

Weitzman said that he left the TSBD shortly after the rifle ( a model 91/38 Mannlicher  carcano ) was picked up by Detective Day. So WHEN  on November 22 would he have examined a mauser in the TSBD?

PS.....   Rob jumped in and started arguing .....Please let him try to defend his statements......

[Walt Cakebread]

You are the one that has uttered one false claim after another. You are distorting the evidence in an effort to hide what it really shows. Your feeble attempts are NOT helping the WC's claim.

Your feeble attempts are NOT helping the WC's claim.

But Robbie.....Isn't it your belief that I'm a WC supporter, and a  LNer ??

Weitzman could NOT have examined a mauser in the TSBD that afternoon.....  He left the building shortly after Dectective Day picked up the Mannlicber Carcano.... So he could NOT have examined a mauser on November 22nd.  But I'm sure that he DID in fact examine a mauser just as described in that FBI report. 

Rob it's a pity that you allow your bias to blind you to facts .....

The authorities were up to some nefarious scheme when they had Weitzman examine a mauser....   

[Walt Cakebread]

I already have. *You* are the one that has NEVER supplied any evidence for your outrageous claims that SUPPORT the WC's claims.

Rob, Weitzman did not examine a mauser that afternoon.....But he did examine a mauser which he describe in detail for the FBI agent.

The question is:....Where did that mauser come from??   And what was the idea of having Weitzman examine it??

 

[Gary Craig]

11/22 Vince Drain arrives at DPD about 2:30p from Love Field- --Day is back at TSBD
...and so what time does the FBI take over the evidence at DPD?   3p Fri?

anybody know?

[Walt Cakebread]

This evidence note which was hastily scribbled by Detective Day in the TSBD shows that Detective J.C. Day knew the rifle's caliber was 6.5mm....  He lists the caliber of a rifle with the serial number C 2766, and TWO spent shells  and the shlls are stamped 6.5mm.     



The point is:...He knew without a shred of doubt that the rifle was NOT a 7.65 caliber mauser.

This note was scribbled at 2:15, which was before Day left the TSBD ...  Seymour Weitzman left the TSBD about 1/2 hour prior to Day leaving the TSBD with the 6.5mm Mannlicher Carcano.    There's no way that Weitzman or Craig could have seen a 7.65 mauser being examined by Day and Fritz.  Tom Alyea filmed  the rifle being picked up and examined by Detective Day....What more proof so you need that Roger Craig was a liar?

[Jake Maxwell]

All it shows is that he knew the official prop gun was supposed to be a 6.5 Carcano. It is ironic that you take this hand scribbled sheet as gospel, but ignore and deny actual reports and affidavits saying that a Mauser was found.

Is it significant that this report shows a LEVER ACTION rifle and also, only TWO spent shells...
What do these discrepancies mean??