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Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #460 on: June 13, 2018, 03:00:56 PM »
Tim and Rob Are there any online sources for the statements of the FBI agents at the theater? I tried looking. Maybe I need to go to search engine term school

Offline Richard Rubio

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #461 on: June 13, 2018, 03:58:20 PM »
By law the FBI are irrelevant as they had no jurisdiction at this time.

Yeah, right, the president's been shot and the FBI have no jurisdiction.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #462 on: June 13, 2018, 04:14:09 PM »
Your ramblings ignore my question. Was LHO arrested at 1:40 p.m. or not?

 "He alerted the theater's ticket clerk, who telephoned police[183] at about 1:40 p.m."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald

You can't prove it's not procedure to write the time of the report down. An approximation as said.

Jack Ruby doesn't have any time on his arrest report. What do we make from that?

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340104/m1/1/

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #463 on: June 13, 2018, 04:45:53 PM »
Your ramblings ignore my question. Was LHO arrested at 1:40 p.m. or not?

Are you an automated message machine incapable of thought or reasoning?  There is no dispute that Oswald was not arrested at 1:40 or that the time notion on the report says 1:40.  Can you follow so far?  No one is disputing that.  Read that a couple of times as you are having difficulty comprehending.  We are not debating that.  The issue is whether the report is evidence of a conspiracy by demonstrating advance knowledge that LHO was the assassin before his arrest.  Still following?  Take your time. 

Now here is the relevant question again, if the report was written at 1:40 - in advance of Oswald's arrest - how would the conspirators know the location of his arrest and the names of the arresting officers?  Information contained in that report.  The logical conclusion to be drawn from that is that the report was written at some point AFTER Oswald's arrest since it contains specific information about that event that can only become known afterwards (i.e. the name of the arresting officer).  Got that?  As all of that occurred after 1:40, that tells us that the time notation is not the exact time the report was written.  It is likely an estimate of the time of Oswald's arrest and is off by a whole ten minutes or so!  Close to the exact time that call was received leading the police to respond to the TT.  The first step leading to Oswald's arrest.  Do you even know who wrote the report?

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #464 on: June 13, 2018, 04:54:47 PM »
Gee Whiz Howie.....I'm obligated to thank you for reminding the folks that there were seven red rings in the windows of the TSBD that afternoon.....  Can you present a rational and logical reason for those red rings being there....

Oh, never mind Howie.... Asking you for a rational answer is akin to askin my dog.....

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #465 on: June 13, 2018, 04:56:53 PM »
Gee Whiz Howie.....I'm obligated to thank you for reminding the folks that there were seven red rings in the windows of the TSBD that afternoon.....  Can you present a rational and logical reason for those red rings being there....

Oh, never mind Howie.... Asking you for a rational answer is akin to askin my dog.....

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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #466 on: June 13, 2018, 05:29:37 PM »
Those shells again...

Under oath, Poe and Barnes did not agree on what shells were allegedly handed to Poe by Benavides.

Under oath, Dhority was not asked to identify the shell he allegedly got from Virginia Davis.

Not called, Doughty (to identify the Barbara Davis shell).

(Under oath, Hill claimed three shells were handed over)

The FBI fixed that in CE-2011, Poe (none!), Barnes (Q-74. Q-77), Dhority (Q-75), Doughty(76).

But, the marks allegedly identified were not documented. This means that there is no way the WC (or anyone else) could verify if that was pure fiction.

This becomes even more suspicious when looking at this transfer of evidence signed by Vince Drain:

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339993/m1/1/?q=css%20form (4-Hulls...)

The two shells picked by Barnes in CE-2011 are the RP shells marked "RD" but Barnes before the commission was looking for a "B". The "DO" shell would be Doughty's, and the UNMARKED then has to be the Dhority shell.

So who marked the shells "RD" and how come none of the marks "RD" and "DO" were mentioned during testimony?

Also, how come the "Dhority shell" was still unmarked on November 28?

Chain-of-possion is absolute trash on those shells.

EDIT:

BTW, in Carl Day's farcical attempt to de-confuse his earlier confusion regarding the third Carcano shell (link below) we learn that Doughty used the mark "GD". Who marked the .38 shell "DO"?

(https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark%3A/67531/metapth339000/m1/1/)

Fact:  Dhority and Doughty positively identified each shell turned over to them by the Davis sisters.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #467 on: June 13, 2018, 06:09:48 PM »
Nothing incredible about it at all.
 
Also incredible.....your ability to peck around on a keyboard.
Congratulations on that achievement.
                     

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #468 on: June 13, 2018, 06:20:08 PM »
Tim and Rob Are there any online sources for the statements of the FBI agents at the theater? I tried looking. Maybe I need to go to search engine term school

Here you go Matt:

Robert Barrett: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10406#relPageId=87&tab=page

Bardwell Odum: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10406#relPageId=89&tab=page

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #469 on: June 13, 2018, 07:54:14 PM »


Robert Barrett: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10406#relPageId=87&tab=page
Bardwell Odum: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10406#relPageId=89&tab=page

 
SA Barrett states that he heard Oswald -yell in a loud voice..  "Kill all the sons of bitches".
The first I've heard that one.

 

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