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Offline Tom Sorensen

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #805 on: April 02, 2025, 05:44:56 PM »
You obviously have fond memories of your discussion with Richard about the scope. Good for you, but in reality, it is nothing more than trying to change course on the discussion which shows you have absolutely no idea about what you are posting.
I will make it very clear-- I had not part of your scope nonsense. Could not have cared less.

Fond indeed, and it was Richard who came up with the "scope nonsense."

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TS   “As I've already pointed out (as did Michael Capasse) Marina has zero credibility”

Marina does not have credibility? Seriously two guys with zero credibility themselves claim someone else has no credibility. How does that work? How many times do you get caught piling on the BS yourself before you become an authority on when someone has no credibility?

Better yet in your mind what makes you an authority on it.

Her contradictory statements are documented; it's a matter of fact. Facts don't care whether you like them or not.

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“Oswald already knew how to shoot properly; he was an ex-marine.”

Not according to you. Talk about no credibility you posted earlier the marines were supposed to supply him with a carcano and teach him so he could learn.

Quote me on that.

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Now here you are presenting yourself as an authority on it on how much LHO knew and why the Marine Corp and the rest of the world is all wrong about dryfiring.

There's no supporting evidence for Oswald dry firing a Carcano, only Marina's claim that he did. Why do you hope to win this argument?

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« Reply #806 on: April 03, 2025, 12:42:12 AM »
Fond indeed, and it was Richard who came up with the "scope nonsense."

Her contradictory statements are documented; it's a matter of fact. Facts don't care whether you like them or not.

Quote me on that.

There's no supporting evidence for Oswald dry firing a Carcano, only Marina's claim that he did. Why do you hope to win this argument?

Fond indeed, and it was Richard who came up with the "scope nonsense."

OK, it holds no interest. People should forget it was even on the rifle.

Her contradictory statements are documented; it's a matter of fact. Facts don't care whether you like them or not.

If you throw a rock, you will hit a witness who made a contradictory statement in the JFK assassination. Does that mean no one has any credibility?

There's no supporting evidence for Oswald dry firing a Carcano, only Marina's claim that he did. Why do you hope to win this argument?

Not true, CE 543 shell was dryfired in LHO's carcano.

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« Reply #807 on: April 03, 2025, 12:50:05 AM »
Would you?

yes

What if I had made it more obvious for you by writing, "Her Handsome Prince Charming" and "The Worker's Paradise" in scare quotes?

Check to make sure but I believe these are scare quotes.

BTW, Deriabin said she had to be at least a low-level informant.

Is she or isn’t she low level?
 
BTW my friend met her in the hallway at the HSCA testimonies. He said she had an unbelievable beautiful flawless complexion. Does that help.

The KGB said she was stupid, lazy, not a good Communist, and that the USSR was happy to get rid of her, yet she was a trained pharmacist, she'd recently been given a raise, and she was a dues-paying member of Komsomol.
 
It is interesting, isn't it, that she'd been a KGB "swallow" in Leningrad, she said she didn't know who her father was but she had a patronym ("Nikolayevna'), her uncle was an MVD colonel, and she spoke English a lot better than she let on?


Possibly all part of her cover to be married to a dufus and act like a non-English speaking housewife in Dallas.

This is my OP:

"A KGB true defector (Major) Pyotr Deriabin (1954), wrote a day or two after the assassination that Marina had to be at least a low-level KGB informant to be allowed to marry her Handsome Prince Charming and leave The Worker's Paradise with him."

Where are the scare quotes you say are in it -- scare quotes which I now realize I should have used so that even you could have understood I was being sarcastic?

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Offline Jack Nessan

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« Reply #808 on: April 03, 2025, 01:03:17 AM »
This is my OP:

"A KGB true defector (Major) Pyotr Deriabin (1954), wrote a day or two after the assassination that Marina had to be at least a low-level KGB informant to be allowed to marry her Handsome Prince Charming and leave The Worker's Paradise with him."

Where are the scare quotes you say are in it -- scare quotes which I now realize I should have used so that even you could have understood I was being sarcastic?

You weren't talking about your second post? I know you like the KGB aspect, I am surprised you were being sarcastic about it. Everyone in Russia can be characterized as a low-level KGB informant.

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« Reply #809 on: April 03, 2025, 01:07:45 AM »
You weren't talking about your second post? I know you like the KGB aspect, I am surprised you were being sarcastic about it. Everyone in Russia can be characterized as a low-level KGB informant.

Are you from Russia?

Regardless, by your logic, any female Soviet citizen was able to leave "The Worker's Paradise" (not the scare quotes signifying sarcasm) back in 1962 as easily as Marina Nikolayevna Prusakova did -- just marry a "Handsome Prince Charming" (note those scare quotes, once again, once again signifying sarcasm) American who happens to be a former sharpshooting Marine U-2 radar operator.
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« Reply #810 on: April 03, 2025, 01:21:01 AM »
Are you from Russia?

Regardless, by your logic, any female Soviet citizen was able to leave "The Worker's Paradise" (not the scare quotes signifying sarcasm) back in 1962 as easily as Marina Nikolayevna Prusakova did -- just marry a "Handsome Prince Charming" (note those scare quotes, once again, once again signifying sarcasm) American who happens to be a former sharpshooting Marine U-2 radar operator.

Are you from Russia?

No more than Catherine the Great was.

Given LHO's suicide attempt. The Russians wanted Oswald out of Russia

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« Reply #811 on: April 03, 2025, 01:38:03 AM »
Are you from Russia?

Given LHO's suicide attempt. The Russians wanted Oswald out of Russia

Are you sure that Oswald really tried to kill himself?

Did he write in his "Historic Diary" that he cut one wrist, or both?

What did the records at Boskin hospital say?

If "the Russians wanted Oswald out of Russia," why did the mother-in-law of a future false-defector (KGB Colonel Igor Kochnov, secretly to the FBI in 1965 and "overtly" to the CIA in 1966 as KITTYHAWK; look him up), Yekaterina Furtseva (the most powerful woman in Russia; look her up), override (future false defector) Yuri Nosenko (look him up) and demand that Oswald not only be allowed to stay in the USSR, but NOT be recruited by the KGB?*

*As related to the CIA and the FBI by false defector Yuri Nosenko and other Kremlin-loyal KGB agents 
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