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[Jack Nessan]

If "the Russians wanted Oswald out of Russia," why did the mother-in-law of a future false-defector (KGB Colonel Igor Kochnov, secretly to the FBI in 1965 and "overtly" to the CIA in 1966 as KITTYHAWK; look him up), Yekaterina Furtseva (the most powerful woman in Russia; look her up), override (future false defector) Yuri Nosenko (look him up) and demand that Oswald not only be allowed to stay in the USSR, but NOT be recruited by the KGB?

Before or after the suicide attempt by LHO? The Russians like the Americans soon realized he was nothing but a clown.

[Tom Graves]

Before or after the suicide attempt by LHO? The Russians like the Americans soon realized he was nothing but a clown.

I edited it a bit, so maybe you should read it again.

But to answer your question, after he "tried" to kill himself.

Obviously.

Here it is again for you:

Are you sure that Oswald really tried to kill himself? Did he write in his "Historic Diary" that he cut one wrist, or both? What did the records at Boskin hospital say? If "the Russians wanted Oswald out of Russia," why, AFTER OSWALD'S SUICIDE "ATTEMPT," did the mother-in-law of a future false-defector (KGB Colonel Igor Kochnov, secretly to the FBI in 1965 and "overtly" to the CIA in 1966 as KITTYHAWK; look him up), Yekaterina Furtseva (the most powerful woman in Russia; look her up), override (future false defector) Yuri Nosenko (look him up) and demand that Oswald not only be allowed to stay in the USSR, but NOT be recruited by the KGB?*

*As related to the CIA and the FBI by false defector Yuri Nosenko and other Kremlin-loyal KGB agents

[Jack Nessan]

I did edit it a bit, so maybe you should read it again.

But to answer your question, after he "tried" to kill himself.

Obviously.

Here it is again for you:

Are you sure that Oswald really tried to kill himself?

Did he write in his "Historic Diary" that he cut one wrist, or both?

What did the records at Boskin hospital say?

If "the Russians wanted Oswald out of Russia," why, AFTER OSWALD'S SUICIDE "ATTEMPT," did the mother-in-law of a future false-defector (KGB Colonel Igor Kochnov, secretly to the FBI in 1965 and "overtly" to the CIA in 1966 as KITTYHAWK; look him up), Yekaterina Furtseva (the most powerful woman in Russia; look her up), override (future false defector) Yuri Nosenko (look him up) and demand that Oswald not only be allowed to stay in the USSR, but NOT be recruited by the KGB?*

*As related to the CIA and the FBI by false defector Yuri Nosenko and other Kremlin-loyal KGB agents

What did he possibly have to offer them? He had to be the same person there that he was here. Desperately trying to be a big deal and just wasn't. He comes back to the US and no press meets him at the airport. He was viewed as nothing but an oddity. If he had gone to Cuba or back to Russia it would have been good riddance. I honestly cannot see the Russians considering him any kind of an asset at all. Just a liability.

[Tom Graves]

What did he possibly have to offer them? He had to be the same person there that he was here. Desperately trying to be a big deal and just wasn't. He comes back to the US and no press meets him at the airport. He was viewed as nothing but an oddity. If he had gone to Cuba or back to Russia it would have been good riddance. I honestly cannot see the Russians considering him any kind of an asset at all. Just a liability.

Who knows, given the fact that John N. Newman (author of the 1995/2008 book, "Oswald and the CIA") is probably right when he says in his 2022 book, "Uncovering Popov's Mole," that a KGB mole by the name of Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) in the CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security sent (or duped his confidant, protégé, and mole-hunting subordinate, James Angleton, into sending) Oswald to Moscow in 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a (unbeknownst to Angleton and Oswald) planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA?

[Jack Nessan]

Who knows, given the fact that John N. Newman (author of the 1995/2008 book, "Oswald and the CIA") is probably right when he says in his 2022 book, "Uncovering Popov's Mole," that a KGB mole by the name of Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) in the CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security sent (or duped his confidant, protégé, and mole-hunting subordinate, James Angleton, into sending) Oswald to Moscow in 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a (unbeknownst to Angleton and Oswald) planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA?

Why Oswald instead of anyone else. I am a long way from well-read on Oswald but what I have garnered, is he was really an anti-social individual. How would someone like him possibly get information from any high-ranking person? It is hard to imagine someone with his nature being good at securing information. You have read a great deal more on this Russian subject than anyone I know. Does he really seem like a person who would be good at it? Granted this whole Russian defection seems strange but everything about him is strange.  but that does not make him a spy, just odd.

[Tom Graves]

Why Oswald instead of anyone else. I am a long way from well-read on Oswald but what I have garnered, is he was really an anti-social individual. How would someone like him possibly get information from any high-ranking person? It is hard to imagine someone with his nature being good at securing information. You have read a great deal more on this Russian subject than anyone I know. Does he really seem like a person who would be good at it? Granted this whole Russian defection seems strange but everything about him is strange.  but that does not make him a spy, just odd.

Perhaps you should read Newman's 2008 version of Oswald and the CIA (in which he accuses Angleton of being the mastermind), and his 2022 book, Uncovering Popov's Mole -- which he dedicates to my hero, Tennent H. Bagley (look him up) -- in which he says he was wrong to accuse Angleton of being the mastermind. But do by all means disregard the parts where he says Sergei Papushin was a true defector, that Oswald was a Ukrainian (sic) KGB agent in Minsk, and that some evil, evil high-level American military officers killed JFK because he refused to nuke Moscow and Peking in 1963, won't you?

(Once a published tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theorist, always a published tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theorist, I guess . . .)

[Tom Sorensen]

Fond indeed, and it was Richard who came up with the "scope nonsense."

OK, it holds no interest. People should forget it was even on the rifle.

But it was. It's a fact, even if you choose to ignore it.

Her contradictory statements are documented; it's a matter of fact. Facts don't care whether you like them or not.

If you throw a rock, you will hit a witness who made a contradictory statement in the JFK assassination. Does that mean no one has any credibility?

It was specifically concerning "Oswald's rifle."

You forgot the quote.

There's no supporting evidence for Oswald dry firing a Carcano, only Marina's claim that he did. Why do you hope to win this argument?

Not true, CE 543 shell was dryfired in LHO's carcano.

By whom?