Robert Groden claims has original Wiegman film, says Prayerman is not LHO

[Royell Storing]

  Personally, I believe if Oswald had been standing back there, Buell Frazier would have seen him. Frazier does not remember seeing him back there. Also, that landing was very shallow on 11/22/63. It has been changed since then and is deeper today. Back then, the shallowness of that landing would have put a recognizable figure like Oswald in Frazier's peripheral vision at the slightest (R) turn of his head. Frazier trained Oswald, drove him home weekly, etc. He would have remembered seeing Oswald, if even at a quick glance.
  Going to Dealey Plaza today and thinking you are seeing it as it was on 11/22/63, is like viewing the movie "JFK" and thinking ALL of the film footage was shot on 11/22/63 film. You're being misled by both. 

[Gerry Down]

As expected, Groden has given a full and frank explanation of the whole situation:

It turns out Groden told Jeff Morley where the original is, in a Long Island archive, but Morley never shared that info with us for some reason.

It seems Groden was unhappy that someone was allowed onto the Luna hearings claiming the Zapruder film was faked and Morley didn't like Groden making this point and viewed it as complaining. This is a genuine point by Groden that I think most JFKA researchers would support. Suggestions the Zapruder film might be faked should not be in the official record as it muddies the water in what is already a complex case.

Groden made a copy from the original Wiegman film at the Long Island archive and shared this in a 1990s dvd titled "The Assassination Films". The copy of the Wiegman film on there has the letters NFV at the bottom. Does anyone know what the letters NFV mean?

[Gerry Down]

NFV 

Negative film version?

[Mark Ulrik]

I think it stands for New Frontier Video, a company created by Groden back in the day.

[Gerry Down]

I think it stands for New Frontier Video, a company created by Groden back in the day.

Thanks

[David Von Pein]

After watching the entire 47-minute video above, I find it really strange that we don't hear Bob Groden, at any point in the lengthy video, say a single word about the so-called "Prayer Man" figure in the TSBD doorway. Not a word. Bob only talks about the decades-old "Billy Lovelady / Doorway Man" controversy.

Based on the fact that Groden only brought up the topic of Lovelady as the man in the Depository doorway, I got the strong impression that Mr. Groden isn't even aware of the newer "Prayer Man" theory.

Is it possible that Bob actually thinks the reason that Jefferson Morley and others are so anxious to see the original versions of the Wiegman and Darnell films is to only focus on the Billy Lovelady figure in the films, rather than focus on the Prayer Man individual? Sure sounded that way to me in the above video interview. Very odd.

I'm also perplexed by this oddity that I noticed while watching the above video....

Why does Mr. Groden's DVD copy of his 1995 "Assassination Films" DVD display the Wiegman Film in a widescreen format? It was certainly not filmed in widescreen. It should be viewed in the proper 4x3 ratio, which is exactly how it is displayed on the version of Groden's DVD that I own. (The version I have was released by Delta Entertainment in 2003, but it has the exact same DVD menus and narration as Groden's original 1995 edition.)

[Gerry Down]

I'm also perplexed by this oddity that I noticed while watching the above video....

Why does Mr. Groden's DVD copy of his 1995 "Assassination Films" DVD display the Wiegman Film in a widescreen format? It was certainly not filmed in widescreen. It should be viewed in the proper 4x3 ratio, which is exactly how it is displayed on the version of Groden's DVD that I own. (The version I have was released by Delta Entertainment in 2003, but it has the exact same DVD menus and narration as Groden's original 1995 edition.)

Perhaps you just have a narrow TV 😅