How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?

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Online Royell Storing

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2025, 07:13:40 PM »

  Do you know that the HSCA found, "...probable conspiracy" and 4 SHOTS being fired? Do you really wanna, ".... just cite the HSCA"? Are you now a Conspiracy convert?

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2025, 07:42:31 PM »
  Do you know that the HSCA found, "...probable conspiracy" and 4 SHOTS being fired? Do you really wanna, ".... just cite the HSCA"? Are you now a Conspiracy convert?

Oh, thank you. That was sooooo predictable I was going to post it myself in reply to Steve, perhaps in a more ironic vein than you intended.

Remove the last-minute Dictabelt "evidence" from the equation, and the HSCA was pretty much the Warren Commission II with the exception of dubiously moving the head wound entry. You know that, so why do CTers keep repeating this canard as though it were significant?

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2025, 08:11:29 PM »
Do conspiracy believers really want to endorse the findings of the HSCA? Lone assassin believers largely will because the acoustic evidence they used for the "probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy" was wrong. Otherwise, it was pretty good; not perfect but good.

If we add this investigation to the Warren Commission Report, the Rockefeller Commission, the Church Committee, the news media investigations, the investigations by reporters like Hersh and Weiner, and the research by historians the only sensible conclusion supports the theory that it was one man - Oswald - with a rifle. The other claims are simply people using the assassination to express their grievances with the CIA or "deep state" or whatever monsters they have swirling in their heads.


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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2025, 08:14:36 PM »
  Govt body finds, "probable Conspiracy" and 4 Shots Fired, and you do not find that as being "significant"? You guys continue going the smorgasbord route. Cherry picking. It's ALL you can do. And then there's the Blow-out wound in the BACK of JFK's head that was documented by the Parkland Hospital Dr's. You run away from that Evidence and then turn around and embrace the Bethesda Autopsy of a Stolen Body. This is the MO you have been forced to adopt.   

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2025, 08:37:01 PM »
  Govt body finds, "probable Conspiracy" and 4 Shots Fired, and you do not find that as being "significant"? You guys continue going the smorgasbord route. Cherry picking. It's ALL you can do. And then there's the Blow-out wound in the BACK of JFK's head that was documented by the Parkland Hospital Dr's. You run away from that Evidence and then turn around and embrace the Bethesda Autopsy of a Stolen Body. This is the MO you have been forced to adopt.   

What is the cherry-picking? The HSCA was 98% the Warren Commission II. The HSCA at the last minute found a conspiracy solely on the basis of a dubious scientific analysis of a dubious Dictabelt recording. If the analysis on which the HSCA relied were not suspect, and if the source and interpretation of the Dictabelt recording were not still being debated today, the HSCA's finding would perhaps be of significance. In reality, not so much. Tink Thompson's most recent book was widely viewed as a disappointment by the CT community precisely because he placed so much emphasis on the Dictabelt. What CTers try to do is to suggest the HSCA reached fundamentally different conclusions from the WC. No, the HSCA report is like the WC report all over again, with the exception of an appendix tacked on at the end that is almost surely incorrect.

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2025, 08:56:12 PM »

  I would challenge that "last minute" characterization. It took some time to do the testing inside Dealey Plaza and then go through that data. That "last minute" stuff is more LN Baloney.

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2025, 09:12:38 PM »
  I would challenge that "last minute" characterization. It took some time to do the testing inside Dealey Plaza and then go through that data. That "last minute" stuff is more LN Baloney.

We could debate the "last minute" characterization, but the fact is that the HSCA had already prepared its draft final report finding that Oswald was the lone assassin. Perhaps "very late in its investigation" would make you happier.