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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2023, 05:09:14 PM »
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Mr. Smith,

Dare to explain away the multiple appearances of the wrongly-accused in several different sequences still in Dealey Plaza post-assassination time well after 1:12PM CST.



Yes, it is a false premise driven by some type of psychological compulsion on your part.  There are a multitude of witnesses who confirm Oswald was elsewhere in the known timeframe that makes your premise impossible.  Claiming some person in a fuzzy picture is Oswald not convincing.  Even if you do it multiple times.   You couldn't identify your own mother in those images.  Not a single one of Oswald's coworkers put him there. 

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« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2023, 05:19:51 PM »
The contrarian rebuttal?  "Oswald's rifle - LOL."   It is difficult to even contemplate how there could be more evidence against Oswald than exists.  It is a slam dunk.  Oswald took some measures to cover up his criminal acts and there are certain things that can never be known with certainty (e.g. his exact motivation).   Contrarians cling to these straws in desperation to create any false doubt of his guilt.  But for reasonable people there is no great mystery about this case.  Oswald did it.  There is also no credible evidence of his involvement with any other person or group even after nearly six decades with CTers beating the bushes for any such clue.  It would take a time machine to convince these people.  And some of them would no doubt gouge their own eyes out rather than witness Oswald pulling the trigger.  The only mystery left after all these years is why some feel so emotionally invested in Oswald's innocence.  Only the mental health professionals can sort that out.

But for reasonable people there is no great mystery about this case.  Oswald did it.

So the majority of Americans are not reasonable people?   :D :D :D :D :D :D

You've had 60 years time to prove a conclusive case and have failed miserably. All you've got are speculation, assumptions not supported by evidence and misrepresentations of the evidence that actually is there.

The evidence that Oswald came down the stairs after the last shot is that it actually happened - Richard Smith   ::)
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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #50 on: June 02, 2023, 06:33:12 PM »
But for reasonable people there is no great mystery about this case.  Oswald did it.

So the majority of Americans are not reasonable people?   :D :D :D :D :D :D



That's probably right.  Just look who we have for our president.  The clown show is just missing the tricycle.  Of course, though, the vast majority of Americans don't know the first thing about the JFK assassination.  It's a lot more fun to express belief in nonsense like Bigfoot, UFOs, and JFK conspiracies than to live in the real world.


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« Reply #51 on: June 02, 2023, 06:37:24 PM »
That's probably right.  Just look who we have for our president.  The clown show is just missing the tricycle.  Of course, though, the vast majority of Americans don't know the first thing about the JFK assassination.  It's a lot more fun to express belief in nonsense like Bigfoot, UFOs, and JFK conspiracies than to live in the real world.


And the real world is believing there is a "deep state", that everybody in government is corrupt, that the 2020 election was stolen and that the insurrection of January 6th was nothing more than tourists on a sightseeing tour?

Please give me a break....
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« Reply #52 on: June 02, 2023, 06:52:16 PM »
And the real world is believing there is a "deep state", that everybody in government is corrupt, that the 2020 election was stolen and that the insurrection of January 6th was nothing more than tourists on a sightseeing tour?

Please give me a break....

I don't hold any of those views except possibly the first depending on how "deep state" is defined.  Remember, though, that in the JFK situation CTers frequently claim that reaching a conclusion that Oswald was guilty is based on a lack of skepticism of the government and acceptance of the "official" story.  So keep your narrative straight for once.  There are no more kooky believers in corrupt and sinister governmental forces than JFK conspiracy nuts such as yourself.  Meanwhile, you accept the baseless word of the current government and FBI on any topic.
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« Reply #53 on: June 02, 2023, 07:21:33 PM »
I don't hold any of those views except possibly the first depending on how "deep state" is defined.  Remember, though, that in the JFK situation CTers frequently claim that reaching a conclusion that Oswald was guilty is based on a lack of skepticism of the government and acceptance of the "official" story.  So keep your narrative straight for once.  There are no more kooky believers in corrupt and sinister governmental forces than JFK conspiracy nuts such as yourself.  Meanwhile, you accept the baseless word of the current government and FBI on any topic.

So keep your narrative straight for once.

What narrative would that be?

I don't hold any of those views except possibly the first depending on how "deep state" is defined.

Yeah right, pull the other one....

Meanwhile, you accept the baseless word of the current government and FBI on any topic.

So, despite your denials you do consider the Government and FBI to be corrupt.... Except of course in the JFK case where they can't do anything wrong and would not purposely lie to the people....

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« Reply #54 on: June 02, 2023, 10:01:51 PM »
So keep your narrative straight for once.

What narrative would that be?

I don't hold any of those views except possibly the first depending on how "deep state" is defined.

Yeah right, pull the other one....

Meanwhile, you accept the baseless word of the current government and FBI on any topic.

So, despite your denials you do consider the Government and FBI to be corrupt.... Except of course in the JFK case where they can't do anything wrong and would not purposely lie to the people....

Hilarious from the guy who claims over and over and over again that the FBI and highest levels of the US government were involved in the murder of the president, covered up the identity of the real assassin, and possibly framed an innocent man for the crime and then murdered him.  Now he is calling me out for being skeptical of the government!  Surreal.

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« Reply #55 on: June 02, 2023, 10:19:09 PM »
Hilarious from the guy who claims over and over and over again that the FBI and highest levels of the US government were involved in the murder of the president, covered up the identity of the real assassin, and possibly framed an innocent man for the crime and then murdered him.  Now he is calling me out for being skeptical of the government!  Surreal.

from the guy who claims over and over and over again that the FBI and highest levels of the US government were involved in the murder of the president

Where did I claim that exactly?

Now he is calling me out for being skeptical of the government!  Surreal.

Hilarious. The guy who claims that the FBI (under Hoover, the biggest crook of them all) couldn't possibly have any involvement in the cover up of the JFK assassination is now claiming that the FBI is crooked as can be. Surreal!