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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2023, 04:59:51 PM »
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Someone really hates America.  It is hard to decipher what you are even raving about with these false claims.  No one has banned any book.  Every book written in human history is freely available to any US citizen who wants to purchase it.  To compare that situation to the Nazis is not only hate speech but actually factually incorrect. Some parents are rightfully concerned that their children are being exposed to sexually explicit material by crazy leftists.  That is a perfectly reasonable concern.  They are not domestic terrorists per Old Joe and his Stasi-like justice department but responsible people.  Even if you believe young children should be exposed to such material, to compare that situation to the Nazis burning of books is pathetic.  An insult to Americans and the victims of the holocaust.  You should be ashamed.

They are not domestic terrorists per Old Joe and his Stasi-like justice department but responsible people.

He gets upset when it is pointed out that the Republicans are on a slippery slope to Nazism, but has no problem to call the US Department Stasi-like. What a hypocrite!

And what do those so-called "responsible people" really do? They ban a book about Rosa Parks.... as if that's sexually explicit.

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2023, 05:09:49 PM »
They are not domestic terrorists per Old Joe and his Stasi-like justice department but responsible people.

He gets upset when it is pointed out that the Republicans are on a slippery slope to Nazism, but has no problem to call the US Department Stasi-like. What a hypocrite!

And what do those so-called "responsible people" really do? They ban a book about Rosa Parks.... as if that's sexually explicit.

Maybe define what you mean by "banning" a book.  You appear to have some bizarre subjective interpretation to fit your desired narrative.  For example, do you think every school library must make available every book written?  And if they fail to do so a book is somehow considered "banned"?  You do realize that Americans can literally buy any book ever written via Amazon and other online sources.  Not a single book in the US is banned.  Schools with the input of parents can make decisions on their own curriculum including the books that are available from the school library.  Ironically, what you are suggesting is uncontested governmental control without the input of citizens.  Old Joe and his clown show will decide for parents what their children read.  That sounds more like the totalitarian Nazi form of government than what you are raving about. 

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2023, 05:38:55 PM »
Maybe define what you mean by "banning" a book.  You appear to have some bizarre subjective interpretation to fit your desired narrative.  For example, do you think every school library must make available every book written?  And if they fail to do so a book is somehow considered "banned"?  You do realize that Americans can literally buy any book ever written via Amazon and other online sources.  Not a single book in the US is banned.  Schools with the input of parents can make decisions on their own curriculum including the books that are available from the school library.  Ironically, what you are suggesting is uncontested governmental control without the input of citizens.  Old Joe and his clown show will decide for parents what their children read.  That sounds more like the totalitarian Nazi form of government than what you are raving about.

For example, do you think every school library must make available every book written?  And if they fail to do so a book is somehow considered "banned"?

If a book was previously used at a particular school and now isn't anymore because some extreme right wing nuts don't like it and don't want their children to learn about Rosa Parks, then yes, that's considered banning a book.

Schools with the input of parents can make decisions on their own curriculum including the books that are available from the school library.

Children shouldn't have to go to school and be tought only that what their right wing parents want them to be tought. And why should a handful of parents determine the curriculum for all the children?

Ironically, what you are suggesting is uncontested governmental control without the input of citizens.  Old Joe and his clown show will decide for parents what their children read.

Name one instance where the Biden adminstration has banned a book from any school! You can't, because they haven't done it. It's just the fake excuse the right wing nuts use to justify their own censorship.

That sounds more like the totalitarian Nazi form of government than what you are raving about.

There is only one party in the US who wants politicians to decide about abortions, who supports book banning parents, who will not let LGBTQ people have the freedom to live their life as they want to, who interfere with criminal investigations, who lie about "stolen elections" and who incite and defend violence.... and that's not the Democratic party.
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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2023, 06:13:34 PM »


Schools with the input of parents can make decisions on their own curriculum including the books that are available from the school library.

Children shouldn't have to go to school and be tought only that what their right wing parents want them to be tought. And why should a handful of parents determine the curriculum for all the children?



And there you have it.  The totalitarian mantra.  Parents should keep quiet and just let the schools (that are paid for by the parents) decide what their children learn even if inappropriate.  Their children should be indoctrinated by the powers in control because any dissenter from the party line is a dangerous "nut."  Lenin and Hitler would agree with that proposition.  That's how dictatorships maintain power.  American schools have been taken over by individuals who do not represent the views of most of their constituents.  When this happens in a democracy, the affected individuals have every right to express their concerns and seek change.  It is the direct opposite of what happened in Nazi Germany.  In fact, it is the fundamental basis of a democracy.   And every book remains available to any person who wishes to read it.  There are no books banned by the government or anyone else.  That is myth to fit a desired narrative. 

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2023, 07:14:02 PM »
And there you have it.  The totalitarian mantra.  Parents should keep quiet and just let the schools (that are paid for by the parents) decide what their children learn even if inappropriate.  Their children should be indoctrinated by the powers in control because any dissenter from the party line is a dangerous "nut."  Lenin and Hitler would agree with that proposition.  That's how dictatorships maintain power.  American schools have been taken over by individuals who do not represent the views of most of their constituents.  When this happens in a democracy, the affected individuals have every right to express their concerns and seek change.  It is the direct opposite of what happened in Nazi Germany.  In fact, it is the fundamental basis of a democracy.   And every book remains available to any person who wishes to read it.  There are no books banned by the government or anyone else.  That is myth to fit a desired narrative.

Utter BS

Parents should keep quiet

Nobody said that


and just let the schools (that are paid for by the parents) decide what their children learn even if inappropriate.

Schools are supposed to be the educators. If the parents don't like the curriculum they can take their kids elsewhere. That's their right. What isn't their right is to impose their extreme right wings ideas onto all the children.

Their children should be indoctrinated by the powers in control because any dissenter from the party line is a dangerous "nut." 

Complete paranoia. Parents can take their children to any school they like. There is no obligation for them to place the kids in a particular school. And yes, parents who try to impose their opinions on others are indeed dangerous. Even more so when they start banning books that teach about American history!

Lenin and Hitler would agree with that proposition.  That's how dictatorships maintain power.

Exactly. That's why the Republicans are in favor of books being banned from the curriculum! They want to impose their world view on everybody. You've just made my point for me. There isn't a single Democrate who advocates the banning of books.

American schools have been taken over by individuals who do not represent the views of most of their constituents.

Yeah right... a classic bogus Republican talking point. Republicans think they get to decide which schools comply with their agenda and those who don't get tagged with this crap.

When this happens in a democracy, the affected individuals have every right to express their concerns and seek change.

What "affected individuals"? All they have to do is sent their kids to another school. Problem solved, right? But no, instead they threaten schoolboards and teachers to get their way. And that has nothing to do with democracy.

It is the direct opposite of what happened in Nazi Germany.

Actually, no it isn't. Hilter's ilk imposed their will on the majority of the German people.

And every book remains available to any person who wishes to read it.

Except not in school libraries where Republicans had it removed from the curriculum. Go figure....
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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2023, 10:15:05 AM »
The Nazi party banned and burned books....

Now the GOP is calling for books being banned.... A downward slope?

So much for small Government and freedom of speech, right?

GOP fascists have already banned books from schools and libraries. So much for the "freedoms" right wingers scream about.

GOP fascists are have taken away a woman's right to choose, and in Idaho, right wingers have passed legislation prohibiting women from leaving the state to seek an abortion. Republicans are keeping its citizens from interstate travel. So much for "freedom".

GOP fascists are discriminating against the LGBTQ community and passing discriminatory laws against them.

GOP fascists in Tennessee have expelled 2 black Democratic Tennessee State Representatives for exercising their First Amendment rights but did not expel the white Democrat woman.

GOP fascists are telling teachers what they can or can't do in the classroom wanting parents to interfere in the education system.

GOP fascists are passing laws to force children in public schools to recite the Ten Commandments.   

GOP fascists believe in big government as they are controlling our lives by how they want us to live. They want to control what we read, what we can say, how we can do our jobs, and what we can do with our bodies.         

But for violent criminals and mentally unstable people, the fascist GOP will allow them to buy as many assault weapons they like to commit mass shootings. That's the freedom they are giving mass shooters as American citizens have to live in fear of gun violence each day of their lives.   

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2023, 02:28:08 PM »
GOP fascists have already banned books from schools and libraries. So much for the "freedoms" right wingers scream about.

GOP fascists are have taken away a woman's right to choose, and in Idaho, right wingers have passed legislation prohibiting women from leaving the state to seek an abortion. Republicans are keeping its citizens from interstate travel. So much for "freedom".

GOP fascists are discriminating against the LGBTQ community and passing discriminatory laws against them.

GOP fascists in Tennessee have expelled 2 black Democratic Tennessee State Representatives for exercising their First Amendment rights but did not expel the white Democrat woman.

GOP fascists are telling teachers what they can or can't do in the classroom wanting parents to interfere in the education system.

GOP fascists are passing laws to force children in public schools to recite the Ten Commandments.   

GOP fascists believe in big government as they are controlling our lives by how they want us to live. They want to control what we read, what we can say, how we can do our jobs, and what we can do with our bodies.         

But for violent criminals and mentally unstable people, the fascist GOP will allow them to buy as many assault weapons they like to commit mass shootings. That's the freedom they are giving mass shooters as American citizens have to live in fear of gun violence each day of their lives.   

The only book that I'm aware of that has been "banned" is the manifesto of the radical leftist terrorist in the recent Nashville shooting that the FBI is suppressing. 

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2023, 02:53:57 PM »
The only book that I'm aware of that has been "banned" is the manifesto of the radical leftist terrorist in the recent Nashville shooting that the FBI is suppressing.

That's a meaningless statement as you clearly are not aware of a great many things. That's what living in the MAGA bubble does to you.