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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2023, 02:28:08 PM »
GOP fascists have already banned books from schools and libraries. So much for the "freedoms" right wingers scream about.

GOP fascists are have taken away a woman's right to choose, and in Idaho, right wingers have passed legislation prohibiting women from leaving the state to seek an abortion. Republicans are keeping its citizens from interstate travel. So much for "freedom".

GOP fascists are discriminating against the LGBTQ community and passing discriminatory laws against them.

GOP fascists in Tennessee have expelled 2 black Democratic Tennessee State Representatives for exercising their First Amendment rights but did not expel the white Democrat woman.

GOP fascists are telling teachers what they can or can't do in the classroom wanting parents to interfere in the education system.

GOP fascists are passing laws to force children in public schools to recite the Ten Commandments.   

GOP fascists believe in big government as they are controlling our lives by how they want us to live. They want to control what we read, what we can say, how we can do our jobs, and what we can do with our bodies.         

But for violent criminals and mentally unstable people, the fascist GOP will allow them to buy as many assault weapons they like to commit mass shootings. That's the freedom they are giving mass shooters as American citizens have to live in fear of gun violence each day of their lives.   

The only book that I'm aware of that has been "banned" is the manifesto of the radical leftist terrorist in the recent Nashville shooting that the FBI is suppressing. 

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2023, 02:53:57 PM »
The only book that I'm aware of that has been "banned" is the manifesto of the radical leftist terrorist in the recent Nashville shooting that the FBI is suppressing.

That's a meaningless statement as you clearly are not aware of a great many things. That's what living in the MAGA bubble does to you.

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2023, 02:57:34 PM »
That's a meaningless statement as you clearly are not aware of a great many things. That's what living in the MAGA bubble does to you.

Not sure what you are rambling about here.  You appeared to be concerned with "banned" books in the US.  A demonstrably false talking point.  You also have espoused theories that involve the FBI fabricating evidence in the assassination of JFK.  But suddenly you are not interested in the FBI suppressing information in a recent terrorist attack.  Nothing to see there.  It is meaningless and apparently has something to do with Trump?  LOL.  You are just a neutral arbiter of the facts with no agenda.  Right? 

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2023, 08:18:42 PM »
Not sure what you are rambling about here.  You appeared to be concerned with "banned" books in the US.  A demonstrably false talking point.  You also have espoused theories that involve the FBI fabricating evidence in the assassination of JFK.  But suddenly you are not interested in the FBI suppressing information in a recent terrorist attack.  Nothing to see there.  It is meaningless and apparently has something to do with Trump?  LOL.  You are just a neutral arbiter of the facts with no agenda.  Right?

Not sure what you are rambling about here. 

Of course you don't, but for a clueless individual that's normal...

You appeared to be concerned with "banned" books in the US.  A demonstrably false talking point.  You also have espoused theories that involve the FBI fabricating evidence in the assassination of JFK.  But suddenly you are not interested in the FBI suppressing information in a recent terrorist attack.

Just how pathetic can your "reasoning" get?

Banning books in the US (or anywhere else for that matter) is indeed a problem, but the manifest of some idiot killer isn't a book and it isn't banned. It's evidence and the FBI will have it's reasons for not releasing that information at this time, no matter how desperately you want to get your hands on it.

It is meaningless and apparently has something to do with Trump?

It only has to do with Trump in as much as that you must be unaware of many things to support that con man.

You are just a neutral arbiter of the facts with no agenda.  Right?

Did I say that?

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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2023, 10:05:35 PM »
And there you have it.  The totalitarian mantra.  Parents should keep quiet and just let the schools (that are paid for by the parents) decide what their children learn even if inappropriate.  Their children should be indoctrinated by the powers in control because any dissenter from the party line is a dangerous "nut."  Lenin and Hitler would agree with that proposition.  That's how dictatorships maintain power.  American schools have been taken over by individuals who do not represent the views of most of their constituents.  When this happens in a democracy, the affected individuals have every right to express their concerns and seek change.  It is the direct opposite of what happened in Nazi Germany.  In fact, it is the fundamental basis of a democracy.   And every book remains available to any person who wishes to read it. There are no books banned by the government or anyone else.  That is myth to fit a desired narrative.


The Nazi party from "Europe" where Martin claims to live?  The place that originated fascism and the inquisition among endless other atrocities. No book is banned in the US. Every book written in history is available.   Every single one.  This is some kind of fake talking point to deflect from the real disasters unfolding under Ukraine Joe.   Some parents don't want their children to read pornography in school.  Big deal.   If other parents want their kids to read some sexually explicit material at a young age, they are free to buy any book they desire.   To compare that situation to the Nazis is not only idiotic but insulting to the many real victims of the Nazis.  You should be embarrassed and ashamed to peddle such nonsense.


Maybe define what you mean by "banning" a book.  You appear to have some bizarre subjective interpretation to fit your desired narrative.  For example, do you think every school library must make available every book written?  And if they fail to do so a book is somehow considered "banned"?  You do realize that Americans can literally buy any book ever written via Amazon and other online sources. Not a single book in the US is banned. Schools with the input of parents can make decisions on their own curriculum including the books that are available from the school library.  Ironically, what you are suggesting is uncontested governmental control without the input of citizens.  Old Joe and his clown show will decide for parents what their children read.  That sounds more like the totalitarian Nazi form of government than what you are raving about.

Wrong again.

Some of these books have been available for decades and now these right wing fascists are banning books.

These right wing fascists are trying to erase the LGBTQ community.

Authors Of Banned Books Are Fed Up – and Fighting Back
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/05/1168219569/authors-of-banned-books-are-fed-up-and-fighting-back

THESE 176 BOOKS WERE BANNED IN DUVAL COUNTY, FLORIDA
https://pen.org/banned-books-florida/

‘Don’t Say Gay’ expansion requested by DeSantis approved
https://apnews.com/article/desantis-florida-dont-say-gay-ban-684ed25a303f83208a89c556543183cb

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2023, 06:11:59 PM »


Wrong again.

Some of these books have been available for decades and now these right wing fascists are banning books.

These right wing fascists are trying to erase the LGBTQ community.

Authors Of Banned Books Are Fed Up – and Fighting Back
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/05/1168219569/authors-of-banned-books-are-fed-up-and-fighting-back

THESE 176 BOOKS WERE BANNED IN DUVAL COUNTY, FLORIDA
https://pen.org/banned-books-florida/

‘Don’t Say Gay’ expansion requested by DeSantis approved
https://apnews.com/article/desantis-florida-dont-say-gay-ban-684ed25a303f83208a89c556543183cb

A demonstrably false talking point.  Not every book ever written can be kept in a school or library.  And some books are not age appropriate for school children.  No reasonable person would take issue with that conclusion.  EVERY book ever written in human history is available to the parents of any child who wishes to buy it.  Every single book.  No book is banned in the US.   The only writing that I know of that is currently banned from the public is the manifesto of the radical leftist terrorist who attacked a religious school.  It is has been illegally suppressed by the FBI from the public.   No one has access to it.  That is what is meant by a "banned" book. 

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2023, 07:36:01 PM »
A demonstrably false talking point.  Not every book ever written can be kept in a school or library.  And some books are not age appropriate for school children.  No reasonable person would take issue with that conclusion.  EVERY book ever written in human history is available to the parents of any child who wishes to buy it.  Every single book.  No book is banned in the US.   The only writing that I know of that is currently banned from the public is the manifesto of the radical leftist terrorist who attacked a religious school.  It is has been illegally suppressed by the FBI from the public.   No one has access to it.  That is what is meant by a "banned" book.

Calling a manifesto of a terrorist (which is evidence, btw) a book is like calling you intelligent.

No one has access to it.  That is what is meant by a "banned" book.

Wrong again. It isn't a book and hasn't been published, which is why no one has access to it. That, and the fact of course, that the FBI is not in the habit of releasing a piece of evidence to idiots who claim it's a banned book!