Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination

[Richard Smith]

So you admit you just made it up? Why am I not surprised?

LOL.

[John Iacoletti]

So CTers who believe they have evidence that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs" or think there is "credible evidence" to support Lifton's insane body alteration theory or altered autopsy results

Who are these so-called CTers that believe they have such evidence or think that?

Nobody. Just another one of Strawman “Smith’s” strawmen.

[Jon Banks]

that's the new schtick by the Trumpian right (they complain that it was behind the promotion of the Russian collusion story and the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story)

And they were vindicated...

Investigations proved that the FBI spied on Trump's campaign and that the "Russia collusion" stuff originated from Clinton campaign's opposition research. That stuff wouldn't have been exposed if Hillary won in 2016.

And we know that some in the media tried to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story despite the fact that the DHS confirmed in 2020 that it wasn't a product of Hacking or Russian propaganda.

[Martin Weidmann]

LOL.

Is it really this easy to shut up an otherwise pathetic loudmouth?

Just ask him to substantiate his bogus claims and he falls to pieces. Hilarious!

[Steve M. Galbraith]

And they were vindicated...

Investigations proved that the FBI spied on Trump's campaign and that the "Russia collusion" stuff originated from Clinton campaign's opposition research. That stuff wouldn't have been exposed if Hillary won in 2016.

And we know that some in the media tried to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story despite the fact that the DHS confirmed in 2020 that it wasn't a product of Hacking or Russian propaganda.

Sorry, that isn't a "deep state", not as I see it. That was a handful of anti-Trump people in the FBI and in the Clinton campaign working with reporters to get him. And they believed what they had. And of course all of it was exposed.

Stuff like this has gone on for decades. There were people in the FBI - Mark Felt/Deep Throat - who were leaking to the media about the investigation in order to undermine Nixon. Lots of example. In the US and elsewhere. It's called politics. Is it a problem? Yes, but its not some "deep state" apparatus that is manipulating the country.

Question: You don't think there would be people in this "deep state" who would leak to the media about their plans to kill JFK? And cover it up?

[Richard Smith]

Is it really this easy to shut up an otherwise pathetic loudmouth?

Just ask him to substantiate his bogus claims and he falls to pieces. Hilarious!

Personal commentary - check.  Insults - check.  No substance - big check on that one.  The usual Martin contribution.  It makes me miss Otto.  How are things in "Europe"?

[Jon Banks]

Sorry, that isn't a "deep state", not as I see it. That was a handful of anti-Trump people in the FBI and in the Clinton campaign working with reporters to get him. And they believed what they had. And of course all of it was exposed.

Stuff like this has gone on for decades. In the US and elsewhere. It's called dirty politics. Is it a problem? Yes, but its not some "deep state" apparatus that is manipulating the country.

"The Deep State" is described broadly as 'unelected bureaucrats who influence public policies or manipulate politicians and the press'. I would extend the definition to include people outside of government like defense policy Think-Tanks and National Security contractors. But the broad understanding is that there are people in the foreign policy establishment who have a disproportionate level of power to manipulate the government to their own Ends. 

I think that describes the high-ranking FBI officials who overreached in their investigations of Trump's campaign in 2016. And they thought they could get away with it because they assumed that Hillary would win in 2016.

Question: You don't think there would be people in this "deep state" who would leak to the media about their plans to kill JFK? And cover it up?

I don't think the 'Deep State' is a monolith or a conspiracy. People can have similar interests and move towards achieving those interests without making any agreements. So in short, might there have been people in the 'Deep State' who opposed murdering JFK? Possibly. I don't think everyone in the national security State hated Kennedy but he didn't have many friends in that group either.