Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination
« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2022, 05:53:18 PM »
If you are up and coming in the news media and want to be successful, you know that there are certain topics that you can't touch. It's a form of self-censorship. What part of that is difficult to understand?

Do you remember how the mainstream media trashed Oliver Stone's 1991 'JFK' film months before it was released in theaters?

A few years ago, Secretary of State John Kerry was publicly bullied by the mainstream media for simply hinting that he thinks there might've been a conspiracy. Do you remember that?

Shot - 'To this day, I have serious doubts that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone,' Kerry told NBC's Tom Brokaw in an interview timed with the 50th anniversary of Kennedy's death.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2492911/John-Kerry-doesnt-believe-Lee-Harvey-Oswald-acted-shot-President-Kennedy-says-government-investigation-didnt-the-assassination.html


Chaser - Secretary of State John Kerry is declining to further elaborate on his belief that the assassin of President John F. Kennedy was part of a broader conspiracy.

https://www.politico.com/blogs/politico-now/2013/11/kerry-wont-talk-about-kennedy-conspiracy-177167

What CIA or FBI abuses has the media exposed recently? Like in the past decade?

I recall CIA director, John Brennan, getting a slap on the wrist for spying on the US senate but it wasn't exposed by the news media and it didn't get wall to wall coverage.

The CIA plot to assassinate Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange, got little to no media coverage in the US.

No manipulation or conspiracy is required.

It's a combination of "Group Think" (among mostly smug Liberal elites) and the fact that most editors and producers support the US National Security State. They don't have an adversarial relationship and they don't want to lose their access to government sources.

Meaning, if you rely on sources inside the CIA or FBI for your coverage of foreign affairs or national security, wouldn't you hesitate to write articles that might embarrass those agencies? This isn't limited to the JFK assassination. Lots of stories that implicate the CIA or FBI in abuses of their power barely get covered by the mainstream media.

And I'm not arguing that people "know the truth and are covering it up". But I am agreeing with Carlson's view in this instance, that they don't even cover stuff that's factual but makes the CIA look bad like the Jolly West story he referenced.

It's a combination of "Group Think" (among mostly smug Liberal elites)

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination
« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2022, 06:16:11 PM »
Personal commentary - check.  Insults - check.  No substance - big check on that one.  The usual Martin contribution.  It makes me miss Otto.  How are things in "Europe"?

So predictable.....


What has happened to Otto?  Do you see him in the mirror?



When everything else fails.....  :D   

A dead giveaway for Richard getting stuck.... Hilarious!

What's next? The "Europe" thing again?

Online Andrew Mason

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Re: Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2022, 06:59:39 PM »
Everyone knows the intelligence community influences and manipulates the news media but few will admit it publicly.
I have strong reason to believe that Fox "News" is not affected by anything resembling intelligence.

Online Sean Kneringer

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Re: Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination
« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2022, 07:08:13 PM »
Unnamed source: The CIA killed Kennedy.
Tucker: Good enough for me!

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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination
« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2022, 07:11:37 PM »
I have strong reason to believe that Fox "News" is not affected by anything resembling intelligence.

CNN and MSNBC don't even hide it. They regularly hire former intelligence officials and put them on the air.

But aside from that, there are journalists who are willing to launder information into the news media for the intelligence community (Pricilla Johnson-McMillan style).

Ken Dilanian, who currently works for NBC News, was outed years ago for his relationship with the CIA:

Ex-Tribune reporter said to have ‘collaborative’ relationship with CIA
https://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-tribune-dilanian-20140904-story.html

In documents made public by the website, Dilanian appeared to promise positive news coverage and on occasion sent the CIA press office entire story drafts for review prior to publication. In at least one instance, the CIA’s reaction appears to have led to significant changes in a story eventually published by Tribune newspapers, according to the emails.

“I’m working on a story about congressional oversight of drone strikes that can present a good opportunity for you guys,” Dilanian wrote in one email to a CIA press officer, explaining that what he intended to report would be “reassuring to the public” about CIA drone strikes, according to the Intercept.

In another exchange, the website reported, Dilanian sent a full draft of an unpublished report about drone strikes along with the subject line, “does this look better?” In another, he directly asks the agency officer: “You wouldn’t put out disinformation on this, would you?”



The guy basically does PR for the CIA. Is there any wonder why fewer and fewer Americans trust the news media?

Online Andrew Mason

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Re: Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination
« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2022, 07:13:17 PM »
Good post except for the "deep state" pretense. ....

There is "something" like a "deep state" but it's not deep and it's not a state. It's the bureaucracy, the "administrative state" that carries out policies. It's the CIA, yes, but also the Interior Department that manages national parks. It's agencies and divisions and, most important, people with their own interests who promote their own policies and views. Nothing sinister, nothing Machiavellian; it's the way modern governments work.
There is a marked difference between: 1. agencies operating within government that have difficulty distinguishing between their agency's interests and the public interest (or assume that those interests are necessarily the same) and 2. an array of agencies essentially at odds with the government all linked by conspirators and operating together to achieve a common goal that they know to be different than the public interest that the democratically elected government sees.

Online Charles Collins

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Re: Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination
« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2022, 08:48:53 PM »
Unnamed source: The CIA killed Kennedy.
Tucker: Good enough for me!

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Actually, I remember him only saying that “he believes” that the CIA was involved. It seems to me that they are trying (again) to make something out of nothing…