Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination

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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination
« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2022, 05:12:15 AM »
I didn’t really care for that part but I assume he has some friends who work at the agency or used to.

I found his story about Jack Ruby and Jolly West to be a very good example of how the media ignores the many strange coincidences in the case. Ruby was visited by an MKULTRA doctor before going crazy and most of the news media overlooked that fact.

There were a number of coincidences that day. Some of them point to Oswald’s guilt but, Carlson made no effort to point those out. There is no audience or money for the media in just admitting LHO did the deed.

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination
« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2022, 06:39:10 AM »
There were a number of coincidences that day. Some of them point to Oswald’s guilt but, Carlson made no effort to point those out. There is no audience or money for the media in just admitting LHO did the deed.

That’s not true. For example, Gerald Posner is a proven plagiarist yet still appears on national news shows about the JFK assassination. From the CT community, Jefferson Morley is the only researcher that the mainstream media gives air time to.

Secondly, Dr. Jolly West visited Ruby in prison after he was convicted for killing Oswald. Ruby was never the same afterwards.
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Offline Ted Shields

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Re: Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination
« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2022, 10:13:52 AM »
Secondly, Dr. Jolly West visited Ruby in prison after he was convicted for killing Oswald. Ruby was never the same afterwards.

He was never the same before Wests visit. He had already smashed his head off his cell wall before West showed up.

If "they" wanted to shut Ruby up, it makes no sense to wait until after he was arrested, detained, tried and convicted. Much like it makes no sense to shut Oswald up on the Sunday when hes been in police custody for 2 days. Could've already told them everything about a plot.

And then who shuts up West....

West also worked with Patty Hearst. He did good work there.

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination
« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2022, 02:00:20 PM »
Jolly West’s MKULTRA work overlapped with the time that he visited Jack Ruby:

After he shot Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby’s psychosis was diagnosed by the same CIA doctor who had once killed an elephant with psychedelics
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Some researchers in the JFK assassination community are aware of the fact that one of the doctors that treated Jack Ruby was none other than Louis Jolyon West, a figure equally infamous for allegedly killing an elephant with LSD and for his work in MKULTRA - the Central Intelligence Agency’s infamous interrogation, hypnosis, and mind control program. An analysis of available documents from the CIA’s declassified archives and the recovered MKULTRA files shows that not only did West want to continue his work with the Agency during the period he was treating Ruby, the University he researched at thought that’s exactly what he was doing.
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In the first subsection of the proposal itself, West says that he wants to continue the work for another 11 years. ”It is proposed that the experiments begun during 1955-56 involving hypnotizability, suggestibility, and the roles of certain drugs in altering these attributes, be continued and extended during 1956-67.” This would place West’s treatment of Ruby about three years before the proposed end of this particular MKULTRA subproject. In the proposal, West describes several elements of experiments that match the isolated experience of Ruby and West’s stated reason for going to see him…

In his report, West said that “hypnosis and intravenous sodium pentothal were included among possible techniques” to be used on Ruby. In his proposal to CIA for continuing his MKULTRA work with them, he proposed that “the combined use of hypnotic techniques and autonomic drugs be exercised.” Sodium pentothal, as a barbiturate, is one such autonomic drug that - frequently used in various MKULTRA experiments and other interrogation or hypnosis related programs. In total, West requested an additional $35,995.00 for the next year’s work, not including the other ten years of research he had proposed. This included $5000.00 for “polygraphic, electroencephalographic, electromyographic, and special stimulatory apparatus.”

https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/dec/19/mkruby/

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Re: Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination
« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2022, 03:22:03 PM »
That’s not true. For example, Gerald Posner is a proven plagiarist yet still appears on national news shows about the JFK assassination. From the CT community, Jefferson Morley is the only researcher that the mainstream media gives air time to.

Secondly, Dr. Jolly West visited Ruby in prison after he was convicted for killing Oswald. Ruby was never the same afterwards.

Did Tucker Carlson not just attempt to create the conspiracy argument on national TV?  What about Cyril Wecht, he is still around. There is no shortage of conspiracy proponents. The only shortage is based in the believability sphere.

It is hard to find someone who can overcome the lack of coherency of the argument that a conspiracy existed. The whole idea of a conspiracy is based on connecting imaginary random dots. Just like what Tucker Carlson just attempted to do.

 

Online Charles Collins

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Re: Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination
« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2022, 04:56:17 PM »
That’s not true. For example, Gerald Posner is a proven plagiarist yet still appears on national news shows about the JFK assassination. From the CT community, Jefferson Morley is the only researcher that the mainstream media gives air time to.

Secondly, Dr. Jolly West visited Ruby in prison after he was convicted for killing Oswald. Ruby was never the same afterwards.



Secondly, Dr. Jolly West visited Ruby in prison after he was convicted for killing Oswald. Ruby was never the same afterwards.


Looking at the linked article, Dr. Hubert Winston Smith is cited in the April 26, 1964 report as having requested Dr. West’s visit. Dr. Smith was one of Ruby’s lawyers, and appears to have been well qualified.

Where are you getting the idea that “Ruby was never the same afterwards”? Rabbi Silverman was in regular, close, and in person, contact with Ruby before, during, and after this. As far as I know, he hasn’t indicated anything of the sort.

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination
« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2022, 05:05:26 PM »
Carlson is probably citing the research of Tom O’Neill. Here’s a clip of him from Joe Rogan’s show: