A Rock Solid Alibi.....

[Walt Cakebread]

This is not worthy of debate or serious consideration.

Weitzman looking (get this, with one of those large flashlights they were using) though the opening at the end of a pallet and seeing the Carcano jammed into the same opening that runs beneath the pallet? And same rifle was hidden to allow Oswald time to get out of the country?

This is not worthy of debate or serious consideration.

Ok, Then move along.... But before you leave, I need to thank you for providing the photos....

[Walt Cakebread]

Well there WAS SOME rifle being stuck  out the 6th fioor SE corner window at the very least .

Because Bob Jackson and Malcolm Couch saw SOME rifle (or object resembling a rifle) stuck out the 6th floor SE window and observed it being “”slowly withdrawn”

And there is reason to believe that 3 shots were fired by that rifle per Harold Norman and Amos Euins WC testimony.

Therefore (imo ) the more objective conclusion is that although SOME rifle probably Was from the SE 6th story  corner window , it was NOT Likely to be the MC rifle that the Tom Aleya film recorded  being lifted by Lt. Day.

Reasons:

1. Harold Norman heard the 3 shots fired in approx 4 sec span per his own video recorded demonstration of the spacing.

2. A 2/3rd majority of ear witness heard the no.2 and no 3 shots too close together to have been plausibly fired by an MC rifle.

3. The absence of any statements made about gunpowder residue found in the barrel or the breech of the MC rifle.

4. No statements regarding gunpowder odor which should have been noticeable.

5. The misaligned scope due to the mount itself requiring shims under the mount = impossible for even a perfectly functional scope to have ever been zeroed using the elevation adjustment nibs.
 
6. The curiosity of the bolt handle being apparently up and the bolt not locked down.

7. Weitzman seeing a rifle while looking  eastward under a flat ie ( thru a pallet) which is not probable if the rifle were between the 2 rows  of boxes. If Weitzman is credible , then the rifle must have been moved from its original “well hidden” location to the boxes where it was photographed

6. The curiosity of the bolt handle being apparently up and the bolt not locked down.



Where's the bolt handle?

[Walt Cakebread]

Well there WAS SOME rifle being stuck  out the 6th fioor SE corner window at the very least .

Because Bob Jackson and Malcolm Couch saw SOME rifle (or object resembling a rifle) stuck out the 6th floor SE window and observed it being “”slowly withdrawn”

And there is reason to believe that 3 shots were fired by that rifle per Harold Norman and Amos Euins WC testimony.

Therefore (imo ) the more objective conclusion is that although SOME rifle probably Was from the SE 6th story  corner window , it was NOT Likely to be the MC rifle that the Tom Aleya film recorded  being lifted by Lt. Day.

Reasons:

1. Harold Norman heard the 3 shots fired in approx 4 sec span per his own video recorded demonstration of the spacing.

2. A 2/3rd majority of ear witness heard the no.2 and no 3 shots too close together to have been plausibly fired by an MC rifle.

3. The absence of any statements made about gunpowder residue found in the barrel or the breech of the MC rifle.

4. No statements regarding gunpowder odor which should have been noticeable.

5. The misaligned scope due to the mount itself requiring shims under the mount = impossible for even a perfectly functional scope to have ever been zeroed using the elevation adjustment nibs.
 
6. The curiosity of the bolt handle being apparently up and the bolt not locked down.

7. Weitzman seeing a rifle while looking  eastward under a flat ie ( thru a pallet) which is not probable if the rifle were between the 2 rows  of boxes. If Weitzman is credible , then the rifle must have been moved from its original “well hidden” location to the boxes where it was photographed

If Weitzman is credible , then the rifle must have been moved from its original “well hidden” location to the boxes where it was photographed.

Weitzman is credible..... and yes the rifle was moved to the location where it was photographed by the DPD.

But I don't believe that happened before 11/26/63.   I believe the DPD needed the carcano back in Dallas so they could create some false photos and that's the reason it was returned to Dallas from the FBI lab in Washington DC.  In attempting to create a credible tale about how Lee Oswald shot JFK and then fled across the room and down the stairs they concluded that he wouldn't have had enough time to hide the rifle beneath the pallet of books as it was found where Seymour Weitzman saw it , so they recreated the in situ photo ( destroyed the original and created the one that is now the official DPD in situ photo.)   

[Walt Cakebread]

This is not worthy of debate or serious consideration.

Weitzman looking (get this, with one of those large flashlights they were using) though the opening at the end of a pallet and seeing the Carcano jammed into the same opening that runs beneath the pallet? And same rifle was hidden to allow Oswald time to get out of the country?

Weitzman looking though the opening at the end of a pallet and seeing the Carcano jammed into the same opening that runs beneath the pallet? And same rifle was hidden to allow Oswald time to get out of the country?



Weitzman looking toward the west,  though the opening at the end of a pallet and seeing the Carcano  lying on the floor beneath the pallet. The rifle was hidden to allow Oswald time to get out of the country.

The official in situ photo that was created by the DPD shows the carcano standing upright and sandwiched between boxes.   If the rifle had been in the location shown in the official DPD in situ photo, Weitzman could not have seen it when he had his face down on the floor and was looking beneath the pallet, because there were boxes sitting on the floor to the north of the pallet that blocked his line of sight to that location.

[Walt Cakebread]

Weitzman exhibit E  provides a better perspective for verifying that Weitzman couldn't have seen the rifle as it is depicted in the official DPD in situ photo.



In the official DPD photo the rifle is shown standing on it's magazine, and it is one row of boxes north of the pallet.  Those boxes are sitting on the floor and they would have blocked Weitzman's line of sight to the rifle if it had been sitting as depicted in the official DPD photo.

Notice the boxes that are sitting on the floor to the east ( muzzle end) of the rifle .  Those boxes would have been between Seymour Weitzman  and the rifle if that rifle had been in the location shown in the official DPD in situ photo.

[Walt Cakebread]

Is there a full moon or something?  How do you get a "rock solid alibi" by putting yourself in the location from which the crime was committed (i.e. TSBD)?  And a suspect doesn't get an alibi from claiming to see others.  They get an alibi when some neutral witness can put the suspect at a different location at the time the crime was committed.  Oswald claiming to see someone in the lunchroom who didn't see him doesn't do that.  Obviously, Oswald knows his coworkers, who they hung out with, and what they look like from weeks of working in the building.  It wouldn't take Nostradamus to come up with that tale.  He has no alibi. 

No person can reasonably believe that LHO, a person with a well-documented history of interest in politics, who checked out and read JFK's book from the library, wouldn't so much as go outside to watch the motorcade go by his workplace if he was innocent.  If he was part of some conspiracy that involved framing him for the crime, the conspirators wouldn't risk allowing him to be in the lunchroom where he might be seen by someone at the time of the crime.

Apparently some folks believe that the word "alibi" means a contrive story in an attempt to prove that they were not the culprit in a crime.

alibi----a form of defense by which an accused person attempts to show that he was elsewhere when the crime was committed.

The "investigators" said that JFK had been shot from a sixth floor window of the TSBD at 12:30 

Lee Oswald said that he was in the 1st floor lunch room at the time that he saw Junior, and Shorty walk by that lunchroom at 12:27.  Therefore he couldn't have been on the sixth floor at 12:30.   

At the time Lee presented that alibi  in answering Captain Fritz question ..... There's no evidence that Lee even knew that the investigators were saying that the shots had been fired from the sixth floor.

 

[Richard Smith]

Apparently some folks believe that the word "alibi" means a contrive story in an attempt to prove that they were not the culprit in a crime.

alibi----a form of defense by which an accused person attempts to show that he was elsewhere when the crime was committed.

The "investigators" said that JFK had been shot from a sixth floor window of the TSBD at 12:30 

Lee Oswald said that he was in the 1st floor lunch room at the time that he saw Junior, and Shorty walk by that lunchroom at 12:27.  Therefore he couldn't have been on the sixth floor at 12:30.   

At the time Lee presented that alibi  in answering Captain Fritz question ..... There's no evidence that Lee even knew that the investigators were saying that the shots had been fired from the sixth floor.

 

Don't you think Oswald might know the time and place of the assassination if he was the assassin?  LOL.   Just making up a flimsy story that he was somewhere else is not an alibi.  No one saw him there.  There was no "corroboration" (a word CTers love).  Oswald has no alibi.  He has a baseless claim that can be judged against the evidence left on the 6th floor including his rifle, fired bullet casings from his rifle, and his prints on the SN boxes.  His explanation for his rifle being found on the 6th floor?  None.  Instead he lies and denies owning any rifle. 

Conclusion:  GUILTY.

[Charles Collins]

Where specifically is it on the first floor that Eddie Piper said he went during the shots. He testified that he went to where they make coffee to see what time it was. Where exactly is this area located on the first floor?