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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2021, 12:40:16 AM »
So you do accept that red rings on windows had a fire safety purpose?  The TSBD was an old building.  Maybe the rings had been there for a long time and no one bothered to remove them.  I'm not a historian of Dallas fire safety regulations and neither are you.  What we know with certainty is that such rings were placed on the windows of Dallas building for a fire safety purpose.  They were there on 11.22.63.  There is zero evidence that they were any type of signal and the notion that the conspirators would attempt to convey some type of message via placing red rings in a random building - one among thousands - that JFK passed that day is so outlandish as to defy comprehension.

So show me a photo of the Daltex , or the county records building in which there are red rings on the windows....

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2021, 06:24:28 AM »
I was referring to this photograph, which you accepted without blinking an eye: "I just wanted you to know that the photo of Roberson with the umbrella had a real impact".

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article3952975.html#storylink=related_inline

John O'Hare's son says it is Rip Robertson holding the umbrella in Congo. I don't know!



Another version.

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2021, 05:03:35 PM »
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article3952975.html#storylink=related_inline

John O'Hare's son says it is Rip Robertson holding the umbrella in Congo. I don't know!



Another version.

Thank you for posting the pictures..... I don't doubt that Robertson was actively involved in the ambush of President Kennedy.
He probably was the coordinator.....    May he not RIP.....

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« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2021, 10:42:56 PM »


          — Fire Engineering, 1948

    RED CIRCLES TO FACILITATE RESCUE

     The red circle will show the way in and out of Syracuse’s burning buildings.
     Fire Chief William J. Connelly has announced that red circles will be painted
     shortly on upper-floor windows of factories, warehouses and other business
     places.

     According to press accounts furnished Fire Engineering by James R. Jackson,
     Oswego, N. Y., the circle will indicate the window opens into an aisle or passage-
     way which will give firemen easy access to fight flames or effect rescues.

     Persons trapped inside a particular building will know that any window bearing
     the red circle will be the first place from which they will be rescued.

     The details of painting the red circles on windows, Chief Connelly said, are in
     the hands of Lieut. John Dacey of the fire prevention bureau. Each circle will
     measure eight or more inches in diameter, depending upon the size of the window.

     Employers and employes alike, the reports say, have agreed to keep
     free of obstructions all aisles leading to red circled windows.

     ST. JOHN, N. B., USES WHITE CROSS

     The idea of identifying windows and passageways to facilitate fire department
     operations has been employed in New Brunswick for a number of years with
     reported success.

     In 1946, Donald M. Baird. Fredericton, N. B, wrote: “The Saint John, N. B. Fire
     Department, with the cooperation of building owners, recently inaugurated
     this system (marking windows! as an aid to operations at fires in mercantile
     buildings containing large stocks of merchandise. Certain windows on each
     floor are selected for aisles between stockpiles. No obstructions are allowed
     in these aisles between the window and the interior of the building. A white
     cross about two feet high is then painted on the outside wall below the window.
     A small cross on one pane of the window serves as a marker for workers on
     the inside. Thus the fire department can tell at a glance where to raise their
     ladders or operate heavy streams without hindrance due to large stockpiles.”

     The Saint John’s idea of installing identification marks below the windows
     as well as on the windows has an added advantage of providing identification
     tor windows or apertures where and when the window markings may be
     obscured due to smoke or missing because the frame or glass was blown out.


Thank you Mr O....It appears that you can't understand what you read..... 

I've never argued that the red rings in some cities were placed  on a window at the end of a corridor to facilitate the recue of people inside a burning building.  These regulations were enacted due to the fear of a bombing attack in the early days of WWII.

But ....There was no need to place the red rings just a few feet apart on the same floor.  And there were no corridors of escape from the TSBD at the points that the red rings were placed....   Please try again....This time with your brain engaged.

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2021, 10:42:33 PM »
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article3952975.html#storylink=related_inline

John O'Hare's son says it is Rip Robertson holding the umbrella in Congo. I don't know!



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In the photo section of the Book Bay Of pigs by Peter Wyden there is a photo of Rip Robertson.....


The man with the umbrella could be Rip Robertson.....Someone that is skilled with photos may be able to confirm....

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2021, 11:45:22 PM »
In the photo section of the Book Bay Of pigs by Peter Wyden there is a photo of Rip Robertson.....


The man with the umbrella could be Rip Robertson.....Someone that is skilled with photos may be able to confirm....

The man holding the umbrella was identified as Rip Robertson by John O'Hare's son. This happened on twitter. I contacted him and asked if he could deny or confirm if he knows that his father & Rip were both in dealey plaza, he didn't answer. He didn't reply, and who can blame him giving away a very juicy secret to some weasel on the internet. He will probably get around to that (answering) some day when he's signed a financial contract. That's my prediction. Maybe a more socially sophisticated person can get in touch with him and noodle the answer out of him. O'Hare's son said the photo was taken in the Congo. Some CIA crap.

I dunno if you read that article I posted ... https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article3952975.html#storylink=related_inline

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The CIA sent about 120 Cuban exiles to fight communist-backed guerrillas during the political violence that wracked the country now known as the Democratic Republic of the Congo from 1962-67, says Frank R. Villafaña, author of Cold War in the Congo, virtually the only history of the role of Cubans in the conflict. Fidel Castro supplied about 200 soldiers to the other side.

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The rival Cuban forces discovered one another’s presence during a CIA bombing raid on guerrilla positions when ground troops and pilots began cursing one another in Spanish. Later they would fight face to face, when CIA-backed Cubans in patrol boats attacked Castro’s troops along Lake Tanganyika’s shores.

“That was the story that got me interested,” said Villafaña. “When I heard it, I thought it was just typical Cuban exaggeration, but it’s all true. I don’t know why the CIA has kept it so secret. All the documents were supposed to be declassified after 30 years, and here we are 50 years and it’s still all secret.”

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The secrecy extends beyond official documents to cloud even the eyewitness accounts of some of the Cuban CIA operatives, now all in their late 70s and beyond. Tamayo, the burly man with the machine gun, is amiable as he shares his recollections of the rescue operation . But, asked about his employer, he turns adamant.

“I don’t know nothing about the CIA,” Tamayo insists.

50 years later ... and look at that final quote “I don’t know nothing about the CIA,” Tamayo insists.

That's what you're up against. These old dudes that did some shizznit for the CIA 50 years ago, still, today, right now, deny they were under CIA control. Still loyal, and serving their master! Giving them complete deniability.

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Cuban pilots had been flying missions in the Congo for the CIA since 1962. But the 20 or so ground troops had just arrived in September, specifically to free the American diplomats.

“They didn’t tell us where we were going, or why,” says Angel Benitez, 76, who like the rest of the men had joined the CIA (for a very un-James-Bondish $250 a month) to help fight its ongoing war against Castro. “All they said was, we’d be going thousands and thousands of miles, but we’d still be fighting communism. So we said, sure.”

It was only in the final 30 minutes of three days of flights in military transports with blacked-out windows that the CIA commander, a larger-than-life Texan named Rip Robertson, pulled out a map of the Congo to reveal their destination.

^those are my underlining skills, you may credit me.

These guys are not ever gonna rat on Rip. They wont even rat on the CIA establishment. These men are probably on decent pensions. The guy whose father 'up and died', he hasn't ever been seen again since it got a bit too hot for him. A company man does what he's told to. But O'Hare's son knows the pic of the man holding the umbrella was his dad's boss, Mr Rip Robertson.



I can't even remember the context of why O'Hare's son posted the pic on twitter. I am currently banned from twitter for speaking about covid. I find his identifying Rip Robertson enough confirmation. That's just my personal satisfaction. I am satisfied someone in the know has spoken about Rip Robertson. And what I mean, in the know, O'Hare's son was once featured with his father at a military training camp. He helped his father train killers. Like the real deal. O'Hares son was 15, from memory, and he would train alongside Cuban rebels firing live ammo. O'Hares camp was so well thought of he was taking on U.S military special forces teams and training them in advanced techniques.

O'Hare and Rip Robertson were both experts in whacking people.



If O'Hare's son comes forward and says: yes, my dad is the man photographed with Rip Robertson in dealey plaza ... Seriously, if a CIA payroll killer was involved in the assassination of JFK, what does that mean? why possibly would be the explanation for those two men being in dealey plaza? with the Ed Lansdale accusations made by Prouty, as well, this is treason!



I am most convinced O'Hare was in dealey plaza. Those pics are from spartacus education

I hope O'Hare's son spills the beans on his dad. So far he hasn't commented on the pictures of the two guys in the plaza. So there's some hope!

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2021, 12:26:17 AM »
The man holding the umbrella was identified as Rip Robertson by John O'Hare's son. This happened on twitter. I contacted him and asked if he could deny or confirm if he knows that his father & Rip were both in dealey plaza, he didn't answer. He didn't reply, and who can blame him giving away a very juicy secret to some weasel on the internet. He will probably get around to that (answering) some day when he's signed a financial contract. That's my prediction. Maybe a more socially sophisticated person can get in touch with him and noodle the answer out of him. O'Hare's son said the photo was taken in the Congo. Some CIA crap.

I dunno if you read that article I posted ... https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article3952975.html#storylink=related_inline

50 years later ... and look at that final quote “I don’t know nothing about the CIA,” Tamayo insists.

That's what you're up against. These old dudes that did some shizznit for the CIA 50 years ago, still, today, right now, deny they were under CIA control. Still loyal, and serving their master! Giving them complete deniability.

^those are my underlining skills, you may credit me.

These guys are not ever gonna rat on Rip. They wont even rat on the CIA establishment. These men are probably on decent pensions. The guy whose father 'up and died', he hasn't ever been seen again since it got a bit too hot for him. A company man does what he's told to. But O'Hare's son knows the pic of the man holding the umbrella was his dad's boss, Mr Rip Robertson.



I can't even remember the context of why O'Hare's son posted the pic on twitter. I am currently banned from twitter for speaking about covid. I find his identifying Rip Robertson enough confirmation. That's just my personal satisfaction. I am satisfied someone in the know has spoken about Rip Robertson. And what I mean, in the know, O'Hare's son was once featured with his father at a military training camp. He helped his father train killers. Like the real deal. O'Hares son was 15, from memory, and he would train alongside Cuban rebels firing live ammo. O'Hares camp was so well thought of he was taking on U.S military special forces teams and training them in advanced techniques.

O'Hare and Rip Robertson were both experts in whacking people.



If O'Hare's son comes forward and says: yes, my dad is the man photographed with Rip Robertson in dealey plaza ... Seriously, if a CIA payroll killer was involved in the assassination of JFK, what does that mean? why possibly would be the explanation for those two men being in dealey plaza? with the Ed Lansdale accusations made by Prouty, as well, this is treason!



I am most convinced O'Hare was in dealey plaza. Those pics are from spartacus education

I hope O'Hare's son spills the beans on his dad. So far he hasn't commented on the pictures of the two guys in the plaza. So there's some hope!
The man holding the umbrella was identified as Rip Robertson by John O'Hare's son. This happened on twitter. I contacted him and asked if he could deny or confirm if he knows that his father & Rip were both in dealey plaza, he didn't answer. He didn't reply, and who can blame him giving away a very juicy secret to some weasel on the internet. He will probably get around to that (answering) some day when he's signed a financial contract. That's my prediction. Maybe a more socially sophisticated person can get in touch with him and noodle the answer out of him. O'Hare's son said the photo was taken in the Congo. Some CIA crap.

I dunno if you read that article I posted ... https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article3952975.html#storylink=related_inline

50 years later ... and look at that final quote “I don’t know nothing about the CIA,” Tamayo insists.

That's what you're up against. These old dudes that did some shizznit for the CIA 50 years ago, still, today, right now, deny they were under CIA control. Still loyal, and serving their master! Giving them complete deniability.

^those are my underlining skills, you may credit me.

These guys are not ever gonna rat on Rip. They wont even rat on the CIA establishment. These men are probably on decent pensions. The guy whose father 'up and died', he hasn't ever been seen again since it got a bit too hot for him. A company man does what he's told to. But O'Hare's son knows the pic of the man holding the umbrella was his dad's boss, Mr Rip Robertson.



I can't even remember the context of why O'Hare's son posted the pic on twitter. I am currently banned from twitter for speaking about covid. I find his identifying Rip Robertson enough confirmation. That's just my personal satisfaction. I am satisfied someone in the know has spoken about Rip Robertson. And what I mean, in the know, O'Hare's son was once featured with his father at a military training camp. He helped his father train killers. Like the real deal. O'Hares son was 15, from memory, and he would train alongside Cuban rebels firing live ammo. O'Hares camp was so well thought of he was taking on U.S military special forces teams and training them in advanced techniques.

O'Hare and Rip Robertson were both experts in whacking people.



If O'Hare's son comes forward and says: yes, my dad is the man photographed with Rip Robertson in dealey plaza ... Seriously, if a CIA payroll killer was involved in the assassination of JFK, what does that mean? why possibly would be the explanation for those two men being in dealey plaza? with the Ed Lansdale accusations made by Prouty, as well, this is treason!



I am most convinced O'Hare was in dealey plaza. Those pics are from spartacus education

I hope O'Hare's son spills the beans on his dad. So far he hasn't commented on the pictures of the two guys in the plaza. So there's some hope!

Thank you for the informative post....   For many years I have believed that the plot to murder John Kennedy was planned by CIA men who were POed at JFK for the failed fiasco of BOP....  Some of those CIA guy's futures were destroyed by their involvement with the BOP fiasco...  Some of them had very high political asperations, Like  Allen Dulles, Richard Bissell, and Charles Cabell.... They blamed John Kennedy and hated him.....  When actually it was THEIR hare brained scheme

And they knew that they could goad lunatics like Rip Roberson and Graystone Lynch, Pepe  San Roman.....into performing the hit....